I agree that this is an absolutely nonsensical process. For government created and licensed data who even has the authority to sign a document like this? The President? Congress?
This seems to provide such a thin veneer of (probably unnecessary) legal protection that it isn't worth the headache. There has to be a better way to go about this. If a paper trail is needed (and I'm not convinced it is) it might be easier to obtain a simple letter that states that it is the government agencies understanding that their license is consistent with use by OSM. On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Pierre Béland <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Rodolfo, > > As Rafael said, we had problems importing for Nepal. We spent a lot of > time in the midlle of a crisis to prepare the data and discuss on the > import list, this without any success. > > The same with COD/FOD. This cannot in general be imported into OSM. > > The best then is to carry all such data available and create layers to > overlay over OSM. Not the ideal, but the best solution to operate when a > disaster surge. > > > > Pierre > > ------------------------------ > *De :* "[email protected]" <[email protected]> > *À :* Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected]> > *Cc :* HOT <[email protected]> > *Envoyé le :* Vendredi 23 octobre 2015 7h43 > *Objet :* Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific > Coast > > Hi all, > > here is the same document translated to spanish that was used during > landslides in Salgar, Colombia (you can copy and adapt): > > > https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgDphn6dQMBRWU-psUzc-ieyu3UpRrGTjhOPJ0isSJM/edit?usp=sharing > > Rafael, I'm not so expert with imports, just thinking with another hut: > what about if a raster image is created from the data and then used to > create derivate data (by tracing)? Each image (with points, vectors or > polygons) could be a set of themes --by colors-- (cod, fod or any other > pertinent geospatial object). > > Rodolfo, do you think is possible to contact agriculture (or other > private/public) institutions that may have aerial imagery that can be used > for a potential disaster? > > There are some field pictures in mapillary that maybe can help: > > https://www.mapillary.com/map/search/16.903176634591702/-99.1884312967026/8 > (maybe > you can deploy a fast mission with vehicules before hurricane arrives). > > Best, > > Humberto > > 2015-10-23 4:35 GMT-05:00 Rafael Avila Coya <[email protected]>: > > > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi all: > > You can download an Authorization of use of data here: > > https://www.dropbox.com/s/je68b52fe1ns3gm/Authorization%20of%20the%20use%20and%20sharing%20of%20data.pdf?dl=0 > > I don't know if there is an Spanish-translated one. > > We got the same problem with CC-by when trying to import VDC > boundaries in Nepal after the earthquake. For me, this is a non-sense, > because if you release data with CC-by, you are mainly giving > permission to do whatever, and only asking for attribution, that can > go in the import wiki and metadata of the changeset (and also the > objects too). > > The reason they give is just the opposite: that ODbL doesn't guarantee > that they will attribute the data according to the "restrictions" of > the CC-by license. > > Sarah Hinchliff Pearson, Senior counsel of Creative Commons, was asked > about this and said clearly that ODbL is compatible with CC-by, but > not even this statement was sufficient. > > Cheers, > > Rafael. > > > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > [email protected] > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > >
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