Hi,

Just to let you know , Mexico’s cartographic data is open data and is freely to 
use, the only requirement is to use attribution in the comments when importing 
it .

Thanks,

Andrés Ortiz Haro

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From: Ian Schuler [mailto:i...@developmentseed.org]
Sent: Friday, October 23, 2015 7:57 AM
To: Pierre Béland
Cc: HOT
Subject: Re: [HOT] Cat-5 Hurricane Patricia heading to Mexican Pacific Coast

I agree that this is an absolutely nonsensical process.
For government created and licensed data who even has the authority to sign a 
document like this? The President? Congress?
This seems to provide such a thin veneer of (probably unnecessary) legal 
protection that it isn't worth the headache. There has to be a better way to go 
about this. If a paper trail is needed (and I'm not convinced it is) it might 
be easier to obtain a simple letter that states that it is the government 
agencies understanding that their license is consistent with use by OSM.

On Fri, Oct 23, 2015 at 8:29 AM, Pierre Béland 
<pierz...@yahoo.fr<mailto:pierz...@yahoo.fr>> wrote:
Hi Rodolfo,

As Rafael said, we had problems importing for Nepal. We spent a lot of time in 
the midlle of a crisis to prepare the data and discuss on the import list, this 
without any success.

The same with COD/FOD. This cannot in general be imported into OSM.

The best then is to carry all such data available and create layers to overlay 
over OSM. Not the ideal, but the best solution to operate when a disaster surge.



Pierre

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Hi all,

here is the same document translated to spanish that was used during landslides 
in Salgar, Colombia (you can copy and adapt):

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1tgDphn6dQMBRWU-psUzc-ieyu3UpRrGTjhOPJ0isSJM/edit?usp=sharing

Rafael, I'm not so expert with imports, just thinking with another hut: what 
about if a raster image is created from the data and then used to create 
derivate data (by tracing)?  Each image (with points, vectors or polygons) 
could be a set of themes --by colors-- (cod, fod or any other pertinent 
geospatial object).

Rodolfo, do you think is possible to contact agriculture (or other 
private/public) institutions that may have aerial imagery that can be used for 
a potential disaster?

There are some field pictures in mapillary that maybe can help:

https://www.mapillary.com/map/search/16.903176634591702/-99.1884312967026/8 
(maybe you can deploy a fast mission with vehicules before hurricane arrives).

Best,

Humberto

2015-10-23 4:35 GMT-05:00 Rafael Avila Coya 
<ravilac...@gmail.com<mailto:ravilac...@gmail.com>>:

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Hi all:

You can download an Authorization of use of data here:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/je68b52fe1ns3gm/Authorization%20of%20the%20use%20and%20sharing%20of%20data.pdf?dl=0

I don't know if there is an Spanish-translated one.

We got the same problem with CC-by when trying to import VDC
boundaries in Nepal after the earthquake. For me, this is a non-sense,
because if you release data with CC-by, you are mainly giving
permission to do whatever, and only asking for attribution, that can
go in the import wiki and metadata of the changeset (and also the
objects too).

The reason they give is just the opposite: that ODbL doesn't guarantee
that they will attribute the data according to the "restrictions" of
the CC-by license.

Sarah Hinchliff Pearson, Senior counsel of Creative Commons, was asked
about this and said clearly that ODbL is compatible with CC-by, but
not even this statement was sufficient.

Cheers,

Rafael.


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