Hi Robert, We planned to have the draft translated by early January next year. We surely welcome any feedback for the draft, will keep you posted.
Best, *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)* *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team* Tel: +62 81 5787 03388 Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 4:40 PM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi Yantisa, > > That’s great to hear. The team I’m working with in Sri Lanka is also doing > a lot of validation at this moment and would be interested in the > translated version when it’s ready. Do you have an approximate translation > date in mind? > > Best, > Robert > > — > Sent from Mailbox <https://www.dropbox.com/mailbox> > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:09 PM, Yantisa Akhadi <yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org> > wrote: > >> HOT Indonesia currently developing curriculum and training material for >> OSM Data Validation. This is to expand existing validation curriculum in >> the Activation Curriculum. The draft is still in Indonesian language, we >> will share it once we translate it to English. Thank you for the link >> Maning, I believe our team can learn from it as well. >> >> Best, >> >> *Yantisa Akhadi (Iyan)* >> *Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team* >> Tel: +62 81 5787 03388 Email: yantisa.akh...@hotosm.org >> hot.openstreetmap.org | openstreetmap.id >> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 11:00 AM, maning sambale < >> emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> We have great training materials to onboard new mappers. Maybe its >>> time to focus on developing more materials for validation and recruit >>> more validators? >>> >>> The current tasking manager requires you to validate each task. But, >>> in most cases, quality of edits depend on a specific mapper. We can >>> do validation by user edits instead of by task. For example, at >>> Mapbox, we regularly review every edit of our data team (to ensure we >>> contribute quality data and we are good OSM citizens). Instead of >>> going through each task we review all of the edits of the user in a >>> given project using overpass, JOSM's todo list and validator tools. >>> See example here: >>> https://github.com/mapbox/mapping/issues/135#issuecomment-161922079 >>> >>> >>> >>> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 9:04 AM, Robert Banick <rban...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> > I think Daniel’s suggestion is a good idea; we don’t make nearly >>> enough use >>> > of the front page. I would also like the ability to use custom filters, >>> > perhaps based off the task hashtags? >>> > >>> > — >>> > Sent from Mailbox >>> > >>> > >>> > On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 8:07 AM, Daniel O'Connor < >>> daniel.ocon...@gmail.com> >>> > wrote: >>> >> >>> >> I raised https://github.com/hotosm/osm-tasking-manager2/issues/718 >>> focused >>> >> only on the front page list/different purposes it serves. Ideas or >>> examples >>> >> of other 'task priority' UI encouraged. >>> >> >>> >> On Mon, Dec 7, 2015 at 3:40 AM, Jo <winfi...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Something that baffles me about the TM is that when a task is split, >>> the >>> >>> original tile seems to disappear from existence, even though people >>> could >>> >>> still have a reference to it, they will get a not found message and >>> they >>> >>> can't read the comments anymore. >>> >>> >>> >>> As a long time OSM contritbutor, I started doing validation work. I >>> >>> always try to read the instructions, but I also find I'm jumping >>> between >>> >>> tasks quite often. It poses its own challenges... Anyway, I tend to >>> prefer >>> >>> the tasks where not every building needs to be mapped, but sometimes >>> it's >>> >>> hard to find the middle ground. In a tile where almost nothing is >>> visible, >>> >>> I'd try to map at least something like the rivers and the occasional >>> >>> footpath. By mapping the rivers it becomes easier to find the >>> 'roads' where >>> >>> they cross the rivers. And the rivers are nice reference points by >>> >>> themselves as well, of course. >>> >>> >>> >>> Polyglot >>> >>> >>> >>> 2015-12-06 17:58 GMT+01:00 Dale Kunce <dale.ku...@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Ralf and John. >>> >>>> I don't either of you are ranting but providing good feedback that >>> >>>> aligns with my own thinking about tasks. I favor smaller tasks that >>> can be >>> >>>> completed quickly rather than huge tasks that take multiple mappers >>> to >>> >>>> complete. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> One thing that I think we are moving towards is a set of guidelines >>> for >>> >>>> TM PMs. This will standardize a lot of language and help keep tasks >>> >>>> manageable. I'm working on a draft that I'll share with the HOT and >>> TM PM >>> >>>> lists once it's ready to share. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> Thanks as always for your time. >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> On Sun, Dec 6, 2015, 11:35 AM Ralf Stephan <gtrw...@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> The key for moving people from one-time to many-time contribution >>> is >>> >>>>> motivation. >>> >>>>> I have seen volunteers suddenly much more motivated when I >>> commented >>> >>>>> with more >>> >>>>> than a few words on a validation I did. But at least equally >>> important >>> >>>>> is task and tile size. >>> >>>>> Large tasks are tackled more than a few times only by long-time >>> >>>>> contributors. Why have >>> >>>>> such big tasks when there is no hurry? I know I am more motivated >>> if >>> >>>>> tile sizes are small. >>> >>>>> I'm sure it's more so with new contributors, so why have such large >>> >>>>> tiles per default, if >>> >>>>> they aren't completed anyway? Everything is made ever more casual, >>> but >>> >>>>> I need 30-60 >>> >>>>> minutes to complete the smallest tile size to my satisfaction. >>> Please >>> >>>>> increase the split >>> >>>>> count AND make the default tile size smaller, or you will never get >>> >>>>> enough completed tiles by people who want to invest rather 15 than >>> minutes. >>> >>>>> >>> >>>>> Sorry for ranting >>> >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>>> HOT mailing list >>> >>>>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> >>>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>>> >>> >>>> >>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>>> HOT mailing list >>> >>>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> >>> HOT mailing list >>> >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >>> >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > HOT mailing list >>> > HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> > >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> cheers, >>> maning >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> "Freedom is still the most radical idea of all" -N.Branden >>> https://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ >>> http://twitter.com/maningsambale >>> ------------------------------------------------------ >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> HOT mailing list >>> HOT@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >>> >> >> >
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