One other thing that might suggest the ‘advanced’ way is that we are needing to 
duplicate/translate instructions, guides, wikis, etc. – so, you might want to 
look at their profile and send one or the other of these links versus long 
explanation Ecuador Mapping Guide (English) 
<http://meghastha.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/Ecuador.html>  / Ecuador 
Mapping Guide (E 
<http://meghastha.github.io/tracing-guides/guide/EcuadorSpanish.html> n Español)

 

Just got the translation done, so look for the appropriate guide in further 
project instructions…

=Russ

 

From: john whelan [mailto:jwhelan0...@gmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 2:05 PM
To: Blake Girardot
Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation

 

Yes but then you need a fair bit of knowledge of JOSM to know that and its a 
lot easier just to put a @ sign with the comment in the tile, then the person 
can see what you're talking about.  A message sent through OSM isn't as easy 
for them to see where the problem was.

I have about four JOSM mappers who aren't terribly experienced but are solid 
enough to do basic validation on other projects and have been doing basic 
validation in Ecuador.  ie validating what the instructions ask for.  For them 
@ in the tile after a <crtl>i to grab the name works well.

Cheerio John

 

On 24 April 2016 at 15:40, Blake Girardot <bgirar...@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi John,

I would humbly disagree. With the "Authors" panel open in JOSM, you
can easily evaluate mapping just done by one person, or check mapping
done by one person. We all know the tasking manager is not great at
keeping track of who mapped in a task square, only who marked it done.

So I still send feedback when doing mass validation (at least when
using josm), it is just based on the author's panel and via OSM,
instead of the tm's  who checked out a task square tracking. Usually,
even if I am just knocking out squares regular validation style, I
still need the author's panel to tell me who to "@" at in the TM.

Cheers
blake



On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 7:36 PM, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> I think whilst mass validation can be appropiate sometimes such as in
> Ecuador at the moment I think what we lose from it is immediate feedback to
> an individual mapper which I think means less clean up to do afterwards.
>
> Cheerio John
>
> On 24 April 2016 at 12:09, Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org>
> wrote:
>>
>> Thanks Nama, just trying to herd :)
>>
>> =Russ
>>
>>
>>
>> From: nama.budhathoki [mailto:namabudhath...@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 10:06 AM
>> To: Russell Deffner; 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM'; 'John Whelan'; Megha
>> Shrestha
>>
>>
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi Russell,
>>
>>
>>
>> Megha and couple of others from KLL are already in Trello. They will be
>> happy to contribute on validation.
>>
>>
>>
>> Nama
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my Samsung device
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original message --------
>> From: Russell Deffner <russell.deff...@hotosm.org>
>> Date: 24/04/2016 20:40 (GMT+05:45)
>> To: 'Blake Girardot HOT/OSM' <blake.girar...@hotosm.org>, 'John Whelan'
>> <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi Blake and John,
>>
>> I'll add to Humberto, we'll have a few staff in the HOT Indonesia office
>> (tonight/their morning).  We also have a standing offer from KLL to have
>> some staffers focus on validation. These are great ideas, I don't want to
>> lose them, so can we get them onto the Trello? Then once we've identified
>> who, we can assign whats...
>> =Russ
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Blake Girardot HOT/OSM [mailto:blake.girar...@hotosm.org]
>> Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2016 8:46 AM
>> To: John Whelan
>> Cc: hot@openstreetmap.org
>> Subject: Re: [HOT] Mapping in Ecuador - validation
>>
>> Hi John,
>>
>> Given that we are spending a lot of times on roads, getting road
>> networks correct is pretty vital.
>>
>> Has anyone looked at using existing OSM tools, outside of the Tasking
>> Manager to do large scale road network validation?
>>
>> The one that comes to mind is GeoFabrik's OSM Inspector:
>>
>> http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/
>>
>> Which even has a 'routing' selection in the pop down to focus on
>> problems that affect routing.
>>
>> Are there other tools that would help with this?
>>
>> Could we map roulette getting roads that end near each other connected
>> properly?
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Blake
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------
>> Blake Girardot
>> Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team
>> Vice President, HOT Board of Directors
>> skype: jblakegirardot
>> HOT Core Team Contact: i...@hotosm.org
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Apr 24, 2016 at 3:51 PM, John Whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> >
>> > I'm seeing projects archived fairly quickly without validation.
>> >
>> > Of the validation I have done I've seen crossing ways and highways
>> > almost
>> > meeting on a project that was supposed to be Highways only for
>> > experienced
>> > JOSM users.
>> >
>> > JOSM validation should have highlighted these errors before uploading.
>> >
>> > I won't bother to mention the other problems I've seen but I assume some
>> > thought has been given to the matter?
>> >
>> > Thanks John
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