Hi All, On this subject, I know this retention thing is much discussed at London Missing Maps/OSM events, and Ralph is a key point of contact there. I have spent much time thinking about it, and as a field operator I beleive that connecting remote mappers with the field. This is something we started with the WAMM2017 project, and we have a WhatsApp (the go-to local cal platform) group to which I can add members.
Afterall, the ultimate magic of Humanitarian OpenStreetMap is that 'donors' can connect with 'beneficiaries', working shoulder to shoulder in a literally transparent virtual workspace, where no cash is exchanged which can muddy the philanthropic ideal. I wish we had a coordinator for this connectivity, and I try to build the capacity into all of our projects. Currently in Uganda (Sudanese refugee settlements), my chosen focal point for this kind of connection is Deo Kiggudde, whom I am trying to capacitate in the global connectivity of our community support network. I am convinced that communication of realities of the field is one of the keys to retention. Impact of remote mapping is clear through these relationships. Couple that with the type of local OSM community members (aspirational, bright, tech-savvy), and their interest in self-improvement as well as community improvement, and you have a good formula. It just needs implementing. Rebecca Firth, who does an amazing job globally, and I will try my best to keep connecting people in relationships more locally as I set up more intercultural/interactional WhatsApp groups. Best, Rupert On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas...@gmail.com> wrote: > Dear friends, > > Not in direct response to John, but on a tangent. > > Do people who organise mapathons have a sense of how many people come > again vs. those who only come once? Do you have specific strategies to > encourage people to come back? > > Do you have a plan for progression moving people onto JOSM, or as John > suggests starting some/all on JOSM? Then moving people to validation? > > Would be interested to hear! > Bjoern > > On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 at 00:20, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> I'm not a great person for maperthons, the last one I attended could have >> gone a little smoother, there was a time delay before mapping. They were >> mapping buildings and highways and although they were mapping for some time >> no tiles were completed. >> >> Recently there was another one locally which I drifted down to and I did >> the patter. I took two laptops with JOSM preinstalled and set them up. >> >> As new mappers came in I just asked them to sit down at the laptops and >> start mapping with the building tool. Then we set up their laptops with >> JOSM and they continued on their own machines installing JOSM, I think one >> needed to download JAVA and I had JOSM an a DVD. They then continued >> mapping. We had them mapping their first building within minutes. The big >> delay was setting up an OSM account and logging into the task manager. >> >> 12-15 people registered we had six mappers eventually, four were new to >> JOSM. They mapped buildings quite quickly and I guarantee all were square, >> all were correctly tagged and none were more than six inches out of place. >> Most were spot on in Bing. Tiles were completed and not just ones without >> buildings in them we deliberately pointed them to tiles that had a fair >> number of buildings in them. >> >> As they mapped they became more adventurous in drawing two squares on an >> L shaped building and joining them together. We knew that one section was >> a caravan park so the mapper explored the tags and found >> building=static_caravan and was delighted to find they could select all the >> static_caravans and retag them all at once. >> >> One new mapper was a teacher so since we had a very experienced iD mapper >> there after she had been mapping in JOSM for a period of time I got him to >> show her how to map in iD. Her comment was not so complex to set up in >> that you didn't need to start JOSM first but per building it was more mouse >> clicks involved and more to remember. >> >> I don't know if the group of mappers we had was small enough we could >> give them a bit more one on one or they were just exceptionally good new >> mappers. They all had Windows machines to work on. >> >> I do know that Jo has had some similar results going directly to JOSM for >> new mappers. >> >> It does look as if going JOSM and the building_tool plugin is a viable >> route for new mappers mapping buildings in maperthons. Both the quantity >> per mapper and the data quality of the mapped buildings was high. >> >> Cheerio John >> _______________________________________________ >> HOT mailing list >> HOT@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot >> > > _______________________________________________ > HOT mailing list > HOT@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/hot > > -- Rupert Allan Country/Project Manager - Uganda E-Mail: rupert.al...@hotosm.org East Africa: +256 792 297795 UK: +44 7970 540 647 Skype: Reuben Molotov Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team Using OpenStreetMap for Humanitarian Response & Economic Development web <http://hotosm.org/> | twitter <https://twitter.com/hotosm> | facebook <https://www.facebook.com/hotosm> | donate <http://hotosm.org/donate> Web/Blog: www.rupertallan.com MARINE CALL SIGN: 24VN3
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