Forgive typos. The sun is bright here on my screen.
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On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 1:42 PM, Rupert Allan <rupert.al...@hotosm.org>
wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> On this subject, I know this retention thing is much discussed at London
> Missing Maps/OSM events, and Ralph is a key point of contact there. I have
> spent much time thinking about it, and as a field operator I beleive that
> connecting remote mappers with the field. This is something we started with
> the WAMM2017 project, and we have a WhatsApp (the go-to local cal platform)
> group to which I can add members.
>
> Afterall, the ultimate magic of Humanitarian OpenStreetMap is that
> 'donors' can connect with 'beneficiaries', working shoulder to shoulder in
> a literally transparent virtual workspace, where no cash is exchanged which
> can muddy the philanthropic ideal.
>
> I wish we had a coordinator for this connectivity, and I try to build the
> capacity into all of our projects. Currently in Uganda (Sudanese refugee
> settlements), my chosen focal point for this kind of connection is Deo
> Kiggudde, whom I am trying to capacitate in the global connectivity of our
> community support network. I am convinced that communication of realities
> of the field is one of the keys to retention. Impact of remote mapping is
> clear through these relationships.
>
> Couple that with the type of local OSM community members (aspirational,
> bright, tech-savvy), and their interest in self-improvement as well as
> community improvement, and you have a good formula. It just needs
> implementing. Rebecca Firth, who does an amazing job globally, and I will
> try my best to keep connecting people in relationships more locally as I
> set up more intercultural/interactional WhatsApp groups.
>
> Best,
>
> Rupert
>
> On Sat, Nov 18, 2017 at 11:38 AM, Bjoern Hassler <bjohas...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> Dear friends,
>>
>> Not in direct response to John, but on a tangent.
>>
>> Do people who organise mapathons have a sense of how many people come
>> again vs. those who only come once? Do you have specific strategies to
>> encourage people to come back?
>>
>> Do you have a plan for progression moving people onto JOSM, or as John
>> suggests starting some/all on JOSM? Then moving people to validation?
>>
>> Would be interested to hear!
>> Bjoern
>>
>> On Sat, 18 Nov 2017 at 00:20, john whelan <jwhelan0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm not a great person for maperthons, the last one I attended could
>>> have gone a little smoother, there was a time delay before mapping.  They
>>> were mapping buildings and highways and although they were mapping for some
>>> time no tiles were completed.
>>>
>>> Recently there was another one locally which I drifted down to and I did
>>> the patter.  I took two laptops with JOSM preinstalled and set them up.
>>>
>>> As new mappers came in I just asked them to sit down at the laptops and
>>> start mapping with the building tool.  Then we set up their laptops with
>>> JOSM and they continued on their own machines installing JOSM, I think one
>>> needed to download JAVA and I had JOSM an a DVD.  They then continued
>>> mapping.  We had them mapping their first building within minutes.  The big
>>> delay was setting up an OSM account and logging into the task manager.
>>>
>>> 12-15 people registered we had six mappers eventually, four were new to
>>> JOSM.  They mapped buildings quite quickly and I guarantee all were square,
>>> all were correctly tagged and none were more than six inches out of place.
>>> Most were spot on in Bing.  Tiles were completed and not just ones without
>>> buildings in them we deliberately pointed them to tiles that had a fair
>>> number of buildings in them.
>>>
>>> As they mapped they became more adventurous in drawing two squares on an
>>> L shaped building and joining them together.  We knew that one section was
>>> a caravan park so the mapper explored the tags and found
>>> building=static_caravan and was delighted to find they could select all the
>>> static_caravans and retag them all at once.
>>>
>>> One new mapper was a teacher so since we had a very experienced iD
>>> mapper there after she had been mapping in JOSM for a period of time I got
>>> him to show her how to map in iD.  Her comment was not so complex to set up
>>> in that you didn't need to start JOSM first but per building it was more
>>> mouse clicks involved and more to remember.
>>>
>>> I don't know if the group of mappers we had was small enough we could
>>> give them a bit more one on one or they were just exceptionally good new
>>> mappers.  They all had Windows machines to work on.
>>>
>>> I do know that Jo has had some similar results going directly to JOSM
>>> for new mappers.
>>>
>>> It does look as if going JOSM and the building_tool plugin is a viable
>>> route for new mappers mapping buildings in maperthons.  Both the quantity
>>> per mapper and the data quality of the mapped buildings was high.
>>>
>>> Cheerio John
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UK: +44 7970 540 647
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