Billy,

Wow, great advice - I'm really looking into Ralio more for the simple fact it 
borrows the per-site admin feature I really like in New Atlanta's BD.NET. I 
really appreciate the time you've taken to give an unbiased opinion of your 
experience.

James E. Thomas
Baker Botts L.L.P
Development Manager, I.T. Practice Support
Work 713.229.2196 | Mobile 832.373.8117 | Fax 713.229.8130

From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of 
Billy Cravens
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 2:25 PM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [houcfug] Adobe CF10 vs. OpenBD - Opinions

I run all 3 (Adobe CF, Railo, and OpenBD).

OpenBD does some innovative things, adding features not found in Railo or 
Adobe. For example, they bake-in many of the cloud functions you might need 
(Amazon and some others), have a built-in HTML parser, can talk JMS and even 
serve as a JMS server, and more. My biggest problem, however, is that they have 
made a choice to not keep up with Adobe. This may be a plus: let the product 
evolve on its own, and meet the needs of users, and not be driven by some 
corporation. However, in today's open source world, your language is driven as 
much by those apps as by the users, as many aren't coding their entire apps 
from scratch, but using frameworks and apps others have written. Some key 
examples that OpenBD doesn't support: script-CFCs, Hibernate ORM, etc.

Railo offers the per-site admin you're looking for, and is language compatible 
with Adobe. Moreover, they've stated that compatibility is their goal. (I went 
into more detail on Railo's benefits in my other email)

CF10 offers some awesome new features that bring it up to par with other 
languages if Web 2.0 features are important to you: WebSockets, REST API server 
support, HTML 5 video, and more. Railo will be supporting those features, but 
CF 10 has been shipping for about 6 weeks now, whereas those features will be 
in the next version of Railo, which is still in beta (I think they'll finalize 
in the fall). (Granted, beta/finished isn't as significant for Open Source as 
it is for commercially produced software)


Billy Cravens
[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>



On Jul 9, 2012, at 11:53 AM, Joyrex wrote:


I'm at a bit of a crossroads as a CF developer, and was wondering what the 
group thought about Adobe CF10 vs. OpenBD, aka Open BlueDragon.

Background: We currently use New Atlanta's 
BlueDragon.NET<http://BlueDragon.NET> 7.x, and have been happy with it over 
Adobe CF for some years now, that is until it appears that New Atlanta has 
given up on developing BD any further, and now that Adobe CF has caught up (and 
surpassed) feature-wise with the innovations BD offered with CF9 and now CF10.

Add to the mix the free, seemingly well-supported and active Open BlueDragon, 
which seems to be a meld of the best from Adobe's flavor of CF and the 
once-innovative spirit New Atlanta's BD offered.

Of course, I could install both and try them out (and probably will), but I'm 
curious as to what fellow developers thought of each and any experiences you 
might want to share as caveats for either.

One of the things I think I will miss the most was BD.NET<http://BD.NET>'s 
individual instances of BD running so each site has it's own admin console, as 
it seems both OpenBD and CF10 take the singular admin console approach for all 
sites.

Any comments/suggestions/stories are appreciated!

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