Good Day Sir

I was just reading through the mailing list and came across you post
here. I see you have some great experience and history with computers.
Let me just encourage you to take a step back and maybe try again.

I too am a fairly new Linux user. I've been using it highly actively for
about a year, and have dabbled in it for a few years now. My role with
this project is to support the engineers with system setup and
configurations, as well as testing, and release. Coming from Windows was
a big challenge. Linux gives you all the choices, such as how to
configure Posix. Usually I just hit 'enter' through all the questions
accepting the default values. In the Windows world, those values would
probably have been assumed for you and you'd never seem them. And really
for the purposes of HPLIP you only need the default values anyway.

You mentioned your library collection accumalating around you. I would
say to first put down or put away that Sobell book. Its not really going
to help with the install, and I think you already have the knowledge you
need to install HPLIP. Ubuntu is a different beast from SUSE. In some
ways its easier. But if you're not use to using sudo in stead of su for
root access, for example, then it can be pretty intimidating at first.
Same thing with command line vs window/dialogs.

So I hope you try again. You have a great printer, I have owned three of
that family, and I would hate to see you miss out on what Linux might do
for you. Let us know how we might help, I'm sure we can walk you through
getting your system working.

Thanks for your time.

Regards and Respect

jh



John R. Ward wrote:
> Aaron,
> 
> Many thanks for your response. I will certainly try to un-install the
> wreckage of hplip. I am not going to try again to install -- by any
> method. The installer is still going to ask me to make choices that are
> totally impossible for me to make, given the information I have. I can't
> understand how sourceforge can put out such a program. Given the nature
> of things, the program is most likely to be used after a Linux install,
> often by someone as ignorant as I of things like Postfix or LSB --
> whatever that is!
> I first used a computer more than 50 years ago (it was machine language
> or assembly language programming in those far-off days), but have done
> no programming for the past 30 years or so. Now, the difficulty seems
> not to be the programming, but the jargon. Every time I go near the
> terminal, I have to surround myself with reference books -- including
> the two-inch-thick /Linux Comands, Editors, and Shell Programming/.  Not
> only is this not programming, as I used to understand it, but this
> monster book does not include many of the commands I have run into,
> *hparm*, for example. *Postfix* appears in the index of only one, of the
> four Linux books I have around me.
> I can't help thinking that it is programs like HPLIP that convince
> people that they would be better off sticking with that 'other' OS.
> Which is a pity.
> Once again, many thanks for your help.
> 
>                             John
> 
> 
> Aaron wrote:
>> John,
>>
>> Postfix is required for LSB, and LSB is required for HPLIP.  Postfix
>> will not effect Thunderbird in any way.
>>
>> To remove hplip and start over:
>>
>> cd hplip-1.7.2
>> sudo make uninstall
>> sudo make clean
>> sudo rm -rf /usr/share/hplip
>>
>> then to re-run the installer:
>>
>> ./install.py
>>
>> If the automatic installer is giving you problems you can the manual
>> install:
>>
>> http://hplip.sourceforge.net/install/manual/distros/ubuntu.html
>>
>> A
>>
>> On 3/7/07, *John R. Ward* <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> 
>> wrote:
>>
>>     I'm totally lost! I need a driver for an HP 990cxi printer. I am both
>>     old and quite unused to working with the terminal. I downloaded the
>>     self-extracting driver program hplip-1.7.2.run successfully, and
>>     started
>>     the installation process. I was asked questions that meant nothing to
>>     me. (I had never heard of Postfix before! Later I discovered that
>>     it has
>>     to do with mail.  I don't understand what that has to do with the
>>     printer, and discovered that the definitive work on that subject
>>     runs to
>>     300 pages. Beyond me, I'm sure.)
>>     The program hung, at the point of looking for dependencies and
>>     conflicts. (I waited for at least an hour.) I tried to reconfigure
>>     Postfix, but the shell didn't recognize the command line (dpkg
>>     --reconfigure Postfix) that I had carefully written down during the
>>     installation process. The new driver seems not to have been installed
>>     (the printer still runs very slowly, as compared with what it used
>>     to do
>>     in Windows and in SUSE 10.0).
>>     Is my mail (Thunderbird) 'broken' as the installation program
>>     warned me?
>>     Is there any way of backing out of this situation short of
>>     re-installing
>>     Ubuntu -- and putting up with a slow printer?
>>     Sorry to bother you,
>>                                          John R. Ward
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