The Mac version of Hugin does include the auto control point generators in the download. I believe you are correct that China technically does have copyright laws but they are rarely enforced as you note. For all practical purposes, there is no patent or copyright protection in China.
I am not sure you are right about the status of copyrighted works created with infringed works. I think there have been cases where the produced work has had to pay the owner of the patent. I am not an attorney but I think that is often use the threat of lawsuits in such cases to get money (iPix comes to mind). As far as copyright protection the artist's creation and a patent protecting the inventor's cash flow. It is also true the copyright protection protects the artist's cash flow and patents protect the inventor's invention. Yes you can do the control point matching by hand but I don't think that happens in most cases any more. On Dec 17, 5:54 pm, Dale Beams <drbe...@hotmail.com> wrote: > An interesting post. > > In the US, fansubs, ie people subbing japanese anime and other foriegn movies > traditionally have been ignored in part because the content had not yet been > copyrighted in the US. Recently international trade agreements have changed > that. Now anime produced in Japan is copyrighted at it's inception just as > copyrighted products in the US are. I'm sure China falls under these > copyright restrictions as well, even if it's not enforced. > > (as i've understood it) > > There has never been a restriction on re-packaging GPL software as far as I > recall (other licenses need to be checked). For example there is a great GPL > desktop publishing software that could be packaged as well, and sold as any > other retail product. However, all GPL software REQUIRES you to notify the > user of the GPL license, prohibits you from removing the GPL license > notification and provide them with an option to obtain the source code. > > (as i've understood it) > > Patents, copyrights, & trademarks still require the company whose rights are > being infringed on to bring the lawsuit to court. This may be changing soon > in the US, as major media companies are trying to make > copyright/patent/trademark infringement a criminal rather than a civil matter. > > In regards to products produced from using Hugin in conjunction with patented > products, doesn't invalidate the copyright of the produced work. > > For example, as an artist, should I use a brand of paint or chalk for a > masterpiece, and there was a patented ingredient in the paint, the paint > would not invalidate my copyright. > > Copyright is there to protect the artist creation. Patents are there to > protect the inventors cash flow. > > This is why it's important to read the copyright. There is copyleft, > creative commons, gpl, etc. > > On a side note, I build my Hugin from scratch, so I'm not aware if Hugin > currently ships with either the SIFT or the SURF program included in binary > form or as part of the package or if it requires the user to download > separately those programs. I would assume it requires the user to make a > moral decision on downloading either of those two patented products. > > If I recall correctly one can do control point matching by hand. > > > > > Date: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 17:08:16 -0800 > > Subject: [hugin-ptx] Re: Moral questions > > From: tahoedave...@yahoo.com > > To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > > Copyright is largely ignored in China and other places so can people > > in those places copy your images or repackage Hugin? > > > Bruno: Where is the other place to discuss Hugin where I can find > > answers? > > > On Dec 17, 7:31 am, "tennevin.yves" <tennevin.y...@wanadoo.fr> wrote: > > > Patents hold no ground in Europe. > > > The Berne convention can still be applied, what ever the licence you > > > choose for your image. > > > And to DaveN comment, I ain't infringing any patent while located in > > > Europe, so the moralistic opinion is bogus, but copyright laws can still > > > be applied in Europe. > > > > -- > > > Yves Tennevin / esby <dot> free.fr > > > >http://esby.free.fr/contact.html > > > > DaveN wrote: > > > > Sure the IP rights are separate but that was not the question. If you > > > > create an image infringing on a patent, can you in all honesty be > > > > outraged if someone infringes on your rights to your image? > > > > > On Dec 17, 12:39 am, ArAgost <arag...@gmail.com> wrote: > > > > >> IANAL and I'm no expert on patents, but note that whatever are the > > > >> issues with the software, the intellectual property of the image is > > > >> completely separate. > > > > >> On 17 Dic, 06:30, DaveN <tahoedave...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > >>> The best control point generators out there are SIFT based (or the > > > >>> software company doesn't tell you what the function is but it sure > > > >>> seems to operate like SIFT). SIFT is patented however that patent is > > > >>> largely ignored on the grounds that such patents don't apply in all > > > >>> parts of the world. The current downloads for Hugin barely mention > > > >>> the patent issue. > > > > >>> Copyrights are also largely ignored in some parts of the world. Using > > > >>> the same logic as above, is it ok for someone in one of the parts of > > > >>> the world that largely ignore copyrights to repackage a version of > > > >>> Hugin and sell it as their own worldwide? Would it be ok if they did > > > >>> so and only casually mentioned to the buyer to check their local laws > > > >>> for any issues that may concern them locally? > > > > >>> If someone makes a commercial image from Hugin using a SIFT control > > > >>> point generator and then posts the stitched image on the Internet and > > > >>> someone copies it, is that ok? > > > > >>> I'll duck now. > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. > > A list of frequently asked questions is available > > at:http://wiki.panotools.org/Hugin_FAQ > > To post to this group, send email to hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > hugin-ptx+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com > > For more options, visit this group > > athttp://groups.google.com/group/hugin-ptx > > _________________________________________________________________ > Hotmail: Powerful Free email with security by > Microsoft.http://clk.atdmt.com/GBL/go/171222986/direct/01/ -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "hugin and other free panoramic software" group. 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