Martin,

Can you send me or place on a website the photos in question?  I"d like to do a 
side by side comparison.



Dale






> From: aksei...@gmail.com
> To: hugin-ptx@googlegroups.com
> Subject: Re: [hugin-ptx] Re: Manually rotate a picture
> Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 20:42:13 -0500
> 
> Martin,
> 
> If you are referring to the condition where one or more pictures  
> appear rotated in the Control Points tab AFTER you have performed some  
> level of Optimizing then you in fact have one or more errant marked  
> points that have caused Hugin to rotate the images. For that situation  
> the optimization process determined the best fit to minimize the  
> errors between all the points is with the images rotated as you see  
> them. You can bully the images back to how they should be by adding  
> enough good marked points, but you really should find and delete the  
> errant marked points. That task is something you need to learn how to  
> do. In time you will learn what parts of an image are likely to fool  
> the automatic point generators.  Sometimes it is best to manually  
> enter all the marked points associated with the rotated picture. To do  
> that you probably will want the picture properly rotated in the  
> Control Points tab after it has already been improperly rotated by  
> Hugin and after you have deleted the marked points for that picture.  
> That rotate task is what I think you are asking about and it sometimes  
> does make sense to have the ability in the Control Points tab but you  
> must realize that Hugin has evolved bit by bit over a long time. The  
> location where you correct the rotation is back at the Images tab and  
> that tab and its place in the intended work path scheme is much older  
> in the programming evolution. I suspect asking for the rotation  
> function at the Control Points tab may be considered heresy.
> 
> Rotating pictures is simply accomplished by manually changing the  
> "roll" value in the Images tab for that picture. Select the image in  
> the Images list and then type in the new roll value. Pictures appear  
> 90 degrees clockwise rotated in the Control Points tab when the roll  
> value is 45 or greater. Pictures appear 90 degrees counter-clockwise  
> rotated when the roll value is -46 or smaller. Similarly, pictures  
> appear upside-down when the roll value is 135. Note that the roll  
> value is recalculated when you Optimize again. You pictures may flip  
> again if the errant marked points were not removed.
> 
> Allan
> 
> 
> On Apr 13, 2010, at 4:23 PM, Martin Lukeš wrote:
> 
> > And if I want to keep already marked points, but since those two
> > pictures in Control Points tab are rotated differently to each other
> > (say 90 degrees), I want MANUALLY rotate one of those pictures.
> >
> > Will this be possible someday?
> >
> > Just to remind: I do NOT want to rotate whole panorama, but just one
> > picture when marking control points.
> >
> > On Apr 12, 5:46 pm, Bruno Postle <brunopos...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> 2010/4/12 Martin Lukeš <martin.merid...@gmail.com>:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>> Now I'd like to know if there is a way how to rotate picture at
> >>> Control Points tab.
> >>
> >> Hugin displays your photos the right way as best as it can.   
> >> Initially
> >> it uses the EXIF metadata, but once you start aligning it uses the
> >> rotation of the photos in the panorama.
> >>
> >> If your panorama is upside down (which Hugin is happy to let you do,
> >> it doesn't 'know' anything about gravity), the images in the Control
> >> Points tab will be upside down too.
> >>
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> >> Bruno
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