Is Panini the same as PTGui's Vedutismo projection and PTAssembler's
Equi-perspective perspective?  If so, does this affect those programs
and the user's of those programs?

Dave

On Jul 29, 12:21 pm, Thomas Sharpless <tksharpl...@gmail.com> wrote:
> You may have heard rumors that I am planning to patent the Panini
> projection.  That is not strictly true, but as I do hope to do something
> like it, I thought I should make my position clear to the group.   I
> sincerely hope this doesn't start one of those long fruitless discussions
> about the morality/legality/feasibility of software patents.
>
> I'm well aware that a patent is one of the least effective ways of
> "protecting" software, and that no patent is likely to generate any income
> without a viable product to go with it.  However I would hate to see the
> Panini projection become the "property" of Adobe or some other commercial
> interest, which could happen if they patent an application of it before
> anyone else does.  So earlier this year I filed a "preliminary patent
> application" with the USPTO, describing the panini-general algorithm (as
> published in libpano13) and three plausible applications, realized by
> different combinations of hardware and software.  A preliminary application
> is just a way of establishing priority, and cannot result in a patent.  Its
> main purpose is to support later normal patent applications, and it is valid
> for just 1 year.   As far as I know this type of application has no standing
> in the E.U. or Britain.
>
> So the idea is to apply for proper U.S. patents on some specific uses of the
> Panini projection -- at least one of them commercially viable -- before next
> Spring.  That will involve hiring a good patent attorney, which can cost a
> significant amount of money,  and possibly other legal costs such as setting
> up a corporation or foundation to manage the patent rights.  So I don't want
> to do it unless and until there is at least a fair prospect of selling
> something.  Those patents would not claim protection for the Panini
> projection as such, which is probably not patentable anyhow, but would
> hopefully make it hard for others to patent or sell similar applications of
> it.  And they might conceivably earn Bruno and me a bit of royalty income.
>
> In case any such patents are granted, it is my firm intention to issue
> blanket free licenses covering any and all uses of the "protected"
> technology in open source software that is licensed under GPL Version 3 (and
> any compatible free software licenses).  That can apparently be made
> perfectly legal,  even in the greedy U.S., as IBM and Red Hat have done with
> a large pool of software patents they own.  Bruno assures me he would not
> object to having his name on a patent licensed that way, and as he really
> discovered the Panini projection I think it should be there.
>
> It is important for this strategy that ownership of the basic patents stays
> in the hands of a reliable organization unlikely to be taken over by "patent
> trolls" (as Ipix and SCO so sadly were).  Hence the foundation idea.   But
> any seriously money-making application would almost certainly have to be
> covered by additional patents owned outright by a manufacturer (otherwise
> nobody would want to build it).  For example let's say JVC decides to offer
> an ultra-wide angle video camera based on the Panini projection.  They would
> absolutely want Canon et al not to be able to do the same, and would no
> doubt apply for several patents on the technology.  The trick for keeping
> the software free is to have the "Panini foundation" be in a position to
> sell them an exclusive license for some key elements of the video processor,
> that is limited, say, to in-camera video processors and would not preclude
> licensing someone else to use the same technology for rendering movies in a
> post-production facility.  Then JVC can patent the hell out of their camera
> without infringing the right of Hugin users to use panini-general.
>
> I'm sure the trick is doable, but it clearly needs both good legal
> preparation and good management of the patent rights.  Which in turn need to
> be sustained by some revenue.  So it won't happen unless I can actually find
> some customers who want to build and sell Panini-based products.  If I were
> 20 years younger I'd probably try to start a company to make TV and movie
> rendering software (and probably lose my shirt) but as it is, someone else
> is going to have to do that.  If any of you wants to volunteer, or knows how
> to sell new technology to TV or movie producers (or JVC Corporation, for
> that matter)  I would be happy to hear about it.
>
> Regards, Tom

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