Trev    You didn't answer this question    Are you trying to imply
that you were in the field of which is   capable of being a voice in
one's one head of RF pulses?  That wasn't an ARTICLE, that was a 1998
DECLASSIFIED US DEPT OF ARMY GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT.  I would of thought
you would have found relevance to it, as the UK government is hooked
into the Echelon System
which could be part of this sound generatin of this Hum we endure.
This sound has to interferring with our bodies biothythms therefore
common sense says it
has to be also harming us.


  They are blasting everyone.  Why do you think the UK, in quite a
number of peer reviewed studies, is now referring to many strange
syptoms as EM hypersensitivity as a possible cause?

  Different populations affected different  depending on the
environment they live in the environment outside, townships vs cities
vs large metropolis areas.
Basically, I would assume it must come down to the amount of chaos
within that system.

  Our hum is most probably that chaos.

  And downplaying a governments well developed technology from over 10
yrs ago,
it boggles my mind, that for you, it's nothing more than an objective
view point.

  There must be a lot more you know about then you are letting on is
what my common sense is telling me at this point.

  But that's just my opinion.

On Jul 5, 2:22 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
> Dee, I can't answer each and every claim you make.
> Directed energy weapons are illegal but have been used in the cold war
> etc and in trials where national interest calls for it.
> It will always be denied at the time
> This is where I agree on the 'badness' of such work as they are not
> controlled adequately.
> That doesn't mean that they are in use 24/7 on the general public or
> that putting MW in the equation makes it more dangerous. The inverse
> square law of natural events makes it impossible to do these distance
> effects without blasting everyone around. Like your ideas on Sun
> twanging.
> Yes, microwave hearing has been proven. Yes, satellites can target by
> triangulation. Yes Hum is a pain to many and Yes, in your article and
> otherwise, many things are done that are not good for man.
> Where is the evidence that it's occuring in a reportable way?
> It's not that I play down- you play UP!
> I have been in research and Gov employ- nothing particularly exotic
> and I won't discuss that here anyway- but when you use 'common sense'
> to justify an opinion, that is just guessing.
> Warning against such thinking is not downplaying concern but trying to
> be objective.
>
> On Jul 5, 5:36 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>
>
> > TREV    Are you trying to imply that you were in the field of which is
> > capable of being a voice in one's one head of RF pulses?  That would
> > infer you know more about this hum then you are letting on.
>
> > Again the playing down? Why? Document stated MW energy could be
> > applied at a distance and technology can be adapted from existing
> > radar units
> > That document was from 1998. Common sense says they figured out longer
> > distances since that technology update.
>
> >   By the way it stated the effective range COULD BE HUNDREDS OF METERS
> > Could be is not a specific. I think it would behoove you to consider
> > the perspective instead of denying meanings where they do exist of
> > attempting to infer otherwise
>
> > On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > The effective range of this methodology is hundreds of meters (from
> > > report)- therefore
> > > I feel you must keep things in perspective.
> > > It's all to easy to cross thread facts and make meanings where it
> > > doesn'r exist.
> > > I don't underestimate the importance of this discosure document
> > > either-
> > > It's all too obvious that much time elapses before we get to hear of
> > > what's behind the curtain of obscuration in matters technical -but
> > > having been in the field myself, I don't give so much power to the arm
> > > of misapplied science as you, Dee!
>
> > > On Jul 5, 12:09 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > Trev  This is a pretty important unclassified document that might have
> > > > to do with our hum. Why would you brush off this Unclassified Document
> > > > with a joke of "more likely to cook bread or something,hopefully not
> > > > our grey matter"? The document SPECIFICALLY implies BRAINS vis MW RF
> > > > pulses. THAT MEANS
> > > > YOUR GREY MATTER.
>
> > > >  Many of us are aware of the fact that a lot goes on behind the scenes
> > > > that we could not dream up and we unblissfully stay unaware of what is
> > > > going on behind those scenes.
>
> > > >  HERE IS A DOCUMENT OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES.
>
> > > >http://www.slavery.org.uk/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf
>
> > > >   You do not find this document holds any relevance to what we might
> > > > be
> > > > experiencing?  No relevance at all?  It boggles my mind that you seem
> > > > to not find much relevance in this Dept of Army 1998 unclassified
> > > > document.
>
> > > >   I mean gosh, we finally get something in writing of a possibly
> > > > technology that
> > > > could be related to our Hum, and your comment seems to make light of
> > > > it.
> > > > Why?
>
> > > > On Jul 1, 9:53 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > There was a time when Ultra sound seemed quite exotic, yet now it's
> > > > > routine in any hospital.
> > > > > I had one yesterday!
> > > > > Invaluable  for seeing what's going on (or not) in the inner workings.
> > > > > I've no doubt that microwave hearing exists and being investigated/
> > > > > used by whoever needs to delve- for good or bad ends.
> > > > > This is a hybrid of infra and super-ultra sound and in 50 years will
> > > > > no doubt be used to cook bread- or something.
> > > > > Hopefully not our grey matter- if we have any left by then.
> > > > > I'll be long gone- but hopefully our chidren and grandchildren will
> > > > > look back and see how people struggled in what is currently rather a
> > > > > sinister  social/political environment- when power and influence
> > > > > overcome humanities' wish do well for each other.
> > > > > The financial crash and the outing of many selfish public servants'
> > > > > grubbing for pennies must surely make even the most incautious and
> > > > > blithe 'non Hum Hearer' pause for thought.
> > > > > There's a lot going on behind the scenes that we could not dream up,
> > > > > even if we wanted too. My 2c.
>
> > > > > On Jul 2, 5:36 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> > > > > >  Microwave hearing is a phenomenon,decribed by human observers as 
> > > > > > the
> > > > > > sensations of buzzing,ticking,hissing,or knocking sounds that
> > > > > > orginate
> > > > > > within or immediately behind the head.   There is no sound
> > > > > > propagating
> > > > > > through the air like normal sound This technology in its crudest 
> > > > > > form
> > > > > > could be used to distract individuals,refined it could be used to
> > > > > > communicate with hostages or hostages takers directly BY MORSE CODE
> > > > > > or
> > > > > > other message systems, possibly even by voice communication.
>
> > > > > > A 1998 US Dept of the Army unclassified document. It became
> > > > > > unclassified in 2006.
> > > > > > Document is an ADDENDUM to the Nonlethal Technologies-Worldwide 
> > > > > > study
> > > > > > (NGIC-1147-101-98)
>
> > > > > >http://www.slavery.org.uk/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf
>
> > > > > > THERMOELASTIC EXPANSION STUDY OF OUR COCHLEAR MECHANISM OF HEARING
> > > > > > AND
> > > > > > MICROWAVE HEARING OF RF PULSED FIELDS
> > > > > > technology goes back over 30 years
>
> > > > > > Mechanism to Produce the Desired Effects
>
> > > > > > After the phenomenon was discovered,several mechanisms were 
> > > > > > suggested
> > > > > > to explain the hearing of pulsed RF fields. Thermoelastic expansion
> > > > > > with the brain in response to RF
> > > > > > pulses was first studied and demonstrated in inert materials and was
> > > > > > proposed as the mechanism of hearing of pulsed RF fields.
> > > > > > A PRESSURE WAVE IS GENERATED IN MOST SOLID AND LIQUID MATERIALS BY A
> > > > > > PULSE OF RF ENERGY
> > > > > > a pressure wave that is several orders of magnitude larger in
> > > > > > amplitude from that resulting from radiation pressure or from
> > > > > > electrostrictive forces.  The characteristics of the field-induced
> > > > > > cochlear MICROPHONIC IN guinea pigs and cats, the relationship of
> > > > > > pulse duration and threshold, physical measurements in water and in
> > > > > > tissue simulating materials,as well as numerous theoretical
> > > > > > calculations
> > > > > > ALL POINT TO THERMOELASTIC EXPANSION AS THE MECHANISM OF THE HEARING
> > > > > > PHENOMENON.
>
> > > > > > Scientists have determined the threshold energy level for human
> > > > > > observers exposed to
> > > > > > pulsed 2450 MHz fields  (0.5 to 32 micron pulse widths). They found
> > > > > > regardless of the peak of the power density and the pulse-width, the
> > > > > > per pulse threshold for a normal subject is near
> > > > > > 20 mJ/kg. The average elevation of the brain temperature associated
> > > > > > with a just perceptible was estimated to be about
> > > > > >  5xl0 -60 C,  (0 drops lower than the 6).
>
> > > > > > Time to Onset
>
> > > > > > The physical nature of this thermoelastic expansion DICTATES AS THE
> > > > > > SOUNDS ARE HEARD AS THE INDIVIDUAL PULSES ARE ABSORBED.
>
> > > > > > THUS THE EFFECT IS IMMEDIATE (WITHIN MILLISECONDS)
>
> > > > > > Tunability
>
> > > > > > The phenomenon is tunable in that the characteristic sounds and
> > > > > > intensities of those sounds depend on the characteristics of the RF
> > > > > > energy as delivered.  Because the frequency of the sound is 
> > > > > > dependent
> > > > > > on the pulse characteristics of the RF energy, IT SEEMS POSSIBLE 
> > > > > > THAT
> > > > > > THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD BE DEVELOPED to the point where words could be
> > > > > > transmitted to be HEARD LIKE THE SPOKEN WORD EXCEPT THAT IT COULD
> > > > > > ONLY
> > > > > > BE HEARD WITHIN A PERSON'S HEAD.
>
> > > > > >   In one experiment, communication of the words from one to ten 
> > > > > > using
> > > > > > "SPEECH MODULATED" MICROWAVE ENERGY WAS SUCCESSFULLY DEMONSTRATED.
>
> > > > > >   MICROPHONES NEXT TO THE PERSON EXPERIENCING THE VOICE COULD NOT
> > > > > > PICK
> > > > > > UP THE SOUND.  ADDITIONAL DEVELOPMENT OF THIS WOULD OPEN UP A WIDE
> > > > > > RANGE OF POSSIBILITIES.
>
> > > > > > HUMANS HAVE BEEN SUBJECTED TO THIS PHENOMENON FOR MANY YEARS
>
> > > > > > Technology Status of Generator/Aiming Device
>
> > > > > >  This technology requires no EXTRAPOLATION to estimate its
> > > > > > usefulness.  Microwave energy can be applied at a distance, and the
> > > > > > appropriate technology can be adapted from existing RADAR UNITS.- 
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