It probably has, that is why we hear the darn noise most probably. My point still stands that to use these technologies in a major way > worldwide would go wrong many times in practice-
On Jul 6, 1:26 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > To be fair- I must add that by using 'directionality' -enhancement is > easily acheived in targetting individuals, especially using 'black' > technology where people don't know where to look for sources etc. > I know many people feel targetted in this way and I feel that it must > be a living hell, especially as no-one listens- if they are not so > effected. > Very like the Hum scenario- but one had to fight fire with fire and > being accurate and objective is part of that path. > My point still stands that to use these technologies in a major way > worldwide would go wrong many times in practice- it always does,and > anecdotal evidence would be more to the fore by now of such widespread > nefarious activities. > Fluoride in the water is so much more elegant! > > On Jul 5, 10:22 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > Dee, I can't answer each and every claim you make. > > Directed energy weapons are illegal but have been used in the cold war > > etc and in trials where national interest calls for it. > > It will always be denied at the time > > This is where I agree on the 'badness' of such work as they are not > > controlled adequately. > > That doesn't mean that they are in use 24/7 on the general public or > > that putting MW in the equation makes it more dangerous. The inverse > > square law of natural events makes it impossible to do these distance > > effects without blasting everyone around. Like your ideas on Sun > > twanging. > > Yes, microwave hearing has been proven. Yes, satellites can target by > > triangulation. Yes Hum is a pain to many and Yes, in your article and > > otherwise, many things are done that are not good for man. > > Where is the evidence that it's occuring in a reportable way? > > It's not that I play down- you play UP! > > I have been in research and Gov employ- nothing particularly exotic > > and I won't discuss that here anyway- but when you use 'common sense' > > to justify an opinion, that is just guessing. > > Warning against such thinking is not downplaying concern but trying to > > be objective. > > > On Jul 5, 5:36 pm, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > TREV Are you trying to imply that you were in the field of which is > > > capable of being a voice in one's one head of RF pulses? That would > > > infer you know more about this hum then you are letting on. > > > > Again the playing down? Why? Document stated MW energy could be > > > applied at a distance and technology can be adapted from existing > > > radar units > > > That document was from 1998. Common sense says they figured out longer > > > distances since that technology update. > > > > By the way it stated the effective range COULD BE HUNDREDS OF METERS > > > Could be is not a specific. I think it would behoove you to consider > > > the perspective instead of denying meanings where they do exist of > > > attempting to infer otherwise > > > > On Jul 4, 8:43 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > The effective range of this methodology is hundreds of meters (from > > > > report)- therefore > > > > I feel you must keep things in perspective. > > > > It's all to easy to cross thread facts and make meanings where it > > > > doesn'r exist. > > > > I don't underestimate the importance of this discosure document > > > > either- > > > > It's all too obvious that much time elapses before we get to hear of > > > > what's behind the curtain of obscuration in matters technical -but > > > > having been in the field myself, I don't give so much power to the arm > > > > of misapplied science as you, Dee! > > > > > On Jul 5, 12:09 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > Trev This is a pretty important unclassified document that might have > > > > > to do with our hum. Why would you brush off this Unclassified Document > > > > > with a joke of "more likely to cook bread or something,hopefully not > > > > > our grey matter"? The document SPECIFICALLY implies BRAINS vis MW RF > > > > > pulses. THAT MEANS > > > > > YOUR GREY MATTER. > > > > > > Many of us are aware of the fact that a lot goes on behind the scenes > > > > > that we could not dream up and we unblissfully stay unaware of what is > > > > > going on behind those scenes. > > > > > > HERE IS A DOCUMENT OF WHAT HAS BEEN GOING ON BEHIND THE SCENES. > > > > > >http://www.slavery.org.uk/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf > > > > > > You do not find this document holds any relevance to what we might > > > > > be > > > > > experiencing? No relevance at all? It boggles my mind that you seem > > > > > to not find much relevance in this Dept of Army 1998 unclassified > > > > > document. > > > > > > I mean gosh, we finally get something in writing of a possibly > > > > > technology that > > > > > could be related to our Hum, and your comment seems to make light of > > > > > it. > > > > > Why? > > > > > > On Jul 1, 9:53 pm, Trev <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > There was a time when Ultra sound seemed quite exotic, yet now it's > > > > > > routine in any hospital. > > > > > > I had one yesterday! > > > > > > Invaluable for seeing what's going on (or not) in the inner > > > > > > workings. > > > > > > I've no doubt that microwave hearing exists and being investigated/ > > > > > > used by whoever needs to delve- for good or bad ends. > > > > > > This is a hybrid of infra and super-ultra sound and in 50 years will > > > > > > no doubt be used to cook bread- or something. > > > > > > Hopefully not our grey matter- if we have any left by then. > > > > > > I'll be long gone- but hopefully our chidren and grandchildren will > > > > > > look back and see how people struggled in what is currently rather a > > > > > > sinister social/political environment- when power and influence > > > > > > overcome humanities' wish do well for each other. > > > > > > The financial crash and the outing of many selfish public servants' > > > > > > grubbing for pennies must surely make even the most incautious and > > > > > > blithe 'non Hum Hearer' pause for thought. > > > > > > There's a lot going on behind the scenes that we could not dream up, > > > > > > even if we wanted too. My 2c. > > > > > > > On Jul 2, 5:36 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote: > > > > > > > > Microwave hearing is a phenomenon,decribed by human observers as > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > sensations of buzzing,ticking,hissing,or knocking sounds that > > > > > > > orginate > > > > > > > within or immediately behind the head. There is no sound > > > > > > > propagating > > > > > > > through the air like normal sound This technology in its crudest > > > > > > > form > > > > > > > could be used to distract individuals,refined it could be used to > > > > > > > communicate with hostages or hostages takers directly BY MORSE > > > > > > > CODE > > > > > > > or > > > > > > > other message systems, possibly even by voice communication. > > > > > > > > A 1998 US Dept of the Army unclassified document. It became > > > > > > > unclassified in 2006. > > > > > > > Document is an ADDENDUM to the Nonlethal Technologies-Worldwide > > > > > > > study > > > > > > > (NGIC-1147-101-98) > > > > > > > >http://www.slavery.org.uk/Bioeffects_of_Selected_Non-Lethal_Weapons.pdf > > > > > > > > THERMOELASTIC EXPANSION STUDY OF OUR COCHLEAR MECHANISM OF HEARING > > > > > > > AND > > > > > > > MICROWAVE HEARING OF RF PULSED FIELDS > > > > > > > technology goes back over 30 years > > > > > > > > Mechanism to Produce the Desired Effects > > > > > > > > After the phenomenon was discovered,several mechanisms were > > > > > > > suggested > > > > > > > to explain the hearing of pulsed RF fields. Thermoelastic > > > > > > > expansion > > > > > > > with the brain in response to RF > > > > > > > pulses was first studied and demonstrated in inert materials and > > > > > > > was > > > > > > > proposed as the mechanism of hearing of pulsed RF fields. > > > > > > > A PRESSURE WAVE IS GENERATED IN MOST SOLID AND LIQUID MATERIALS > > > > > > > BY A > > > > > > > PULSE OF RF ENERGY > > > > > > > a pressure wave that is several orders of magnitude larger in > > > > > > > amplitude from that resulting from radiation pressure or from > > > > > > > electrostrictive forces. The characteristics of the field-induced > > > > > > > cochlear MICROPHONIC IN guinea pigs and cats, the relationship of > > > > > > > pulse duration and threshold, physical measurements in water and > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > tissue simulating materials,as well as numerous theoretical > > > > > > > calculations > > > > > > > ALL POINT TO THERMOELASTIC EXPANSION AS THE MECHANISM OF THE > > > > > > > HEARING > > > > > > > PHENOMENON. > > > > > > > > Scientists have determined the threshold energy level for human > > > > > > > observers exposed to > > > > > > > pulsed 2450 MHz fields (0.5 to 32 micron pulse widths). They > > > > > > > found > > > > > > > regardless of the peak of the power density and the pulse-width, > > > > > > > the > > > > > > > per pulse threshold for a normal subject is near > > > > > > > 20 mJ/kg. The average elevation of the brain temperature > > > > > > > associated > > > > > > > with a just perceptible was estimated to be about > > > > > > > 5xl0 -60 C, (0 drops lower than the 6). > > > > > > > > Time to Onset > > > > > > > > The physical nature of this thermoelastic expansion DICTATES AS > > > > > > > THE > > > > > > > SOUNDS ARE HEARD AS THE INDIVIDUAL PULSES ARE ABSORBED. > > > > > > > > THUS THE EFFECT IS IMMEDIATE (WITHIN MILLISECONDS) > > > > > > > > Tunability > > > > > > > > The phenomenon is tunable in that the characteristic sounds and > > > > > > > intensities of those sounds depend on the characteristics of the > > > > > > > RF > > > > > > > energy as delivered. Because the frequency of the sound is > > > > > > > dependent > > > > > > > on the pulse characteristics of the RF energy, IT SEEMS POSSIBLE > > > > > > > THAT > > > > > > > THIS TECHNOLOGY COULD BE DEVELOPED to the point where words could > > > > > > > be > > > > > > > transmitted to be HEARD LIKE THE SPOKEN WORD EXCEPT THAT IT COULD > > > > > > > ONLY > > > > > > > BE HEARD WITHIN A PERSON'S HEAD. > > > > > > > > In one experiment, communication of the words from one to ten > > > > > > > using > > > > > > > "SPEECH MODULATED" MICROWAVE ENERGY WAS SUCCESSFULLY DEMONSTRATED. > > > > > > > > > > ... > > read more »- Hide quoted text - > > - Show quoted text - --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Hum Sufferers" group. 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