could the echos be a form of a sonic resounder?
 I personally appreciate your input.  You have concluded a few facts
that
my layperson's brain told me was a variable.

Peace
Dee  No. California

On Sep 4, 1:45 pm, wbilly3814 <[email protected]> wrote:
> My name is Bill Bray.  I am a physicist, as well as a musician.  I am
> not an audio engineer, but I have about 30 years experience with audio
> engineering and professional recording.  A large portion of audio
> engineering is troubleshooting recording artifacts in the studio.
> After 30 years of chasing recording artifacts, I believe I have
> substantial expertise on the subject.
>
> Upon listening to your hum recordings in very high quality studio
> headphones, very, very carefully, as well as visualizing the waveform
> on screen, a few important points become obvious to me.
>
> One, the recording is extremely well done, and your choice of
> microphones is ideal for this phenomenon.
>
> Two, there is a notable resonance, an echo, or rather, multiple echoes
> coming from different distances, and changing medium (rock to water
> and back again).  The echoes are most notable as the intensity at any
> given frequency changes.  There are two primary echoes.  These two
> primary echoes occur at an estimated 1 second, and about 1.5 seconds.
> At the speed of sound in air, this corresponds to about 100 and 1800
> feet.  However, at the speed of sound in rock, which ranges from 5 to
> 13 kilometer per second (depending on the density of the rock), with a
> gross average of about 8km/s, this corresponds to 8 and 12 kilometers.
>
> Upon looking at your map of hum sites, this 8 to 12 kilometer range
> covers the entire area of the map, or there about.  Meaning, that the
> hum originating from any given source, i.e., Glenfield, can appear as
> an echo if recorded from another spot on the map.
>
> In your Glenfield recording, this means that the resonances (echoes)
> are coming from the sources surrounding Glenfield, where I see your
> pegs on the map.
>
> Three, there are multiple secondary echoes, much shorter, ranging from
> about 100 milliseconds (half a kilometer) to 500 milliseconds (4
> kilometers).  These appear to correspond to closer pegs on your map,
> as well as a lake due East of Glenfield.
>
> Four, very important, there is a distinct and obvious change in
> medium, associated with a change in velocity of the echoes.  A change
> in medium can be the hum moving from one type of rock to another, but
> I don’t believe so.  It sounds as though the resonance shifts to a
> much lower density medium, namely, I think, water (1500 meters per
> second).  I believe this set of resonances is traveling out to the
> shore line or the lake, and echoing back from the water.  This is the
> ‘garbled’ muddy edge in the recording, almost like a bubble or swell.
>
> Five, the base cycle of the sound, although it sounds random, is quite
> predictable and cyclic.  If you load your Glenfield recording into a
> program called Audacity (freeware), and zoom in closely on the wave
> form, you can see that there are distinct peaks at 1.5 and 2 second
> intervals (both source and echo).  The cycles in the high intensity
> region of the recording, at about 50 seconds, 1:50, and so on have
> about 1.3 second resonances following the signal of origin.
>
> The signal peak at 1:55.5 shows the 1/2 second echo very nicely,
> occurring at 1:56.  This is a 4km echo.  You would also notice that
> the minor peaks at 1:55.5  are sharp and close together, and that the
> peaks at 1:56 are soft and broad, corresponding to a  change in medium
> to a lower density (water).  On your map, this corresponds to the lake
> due East of Glenfield. At 1:57.5 you see the 2 second echo of the
> 1:55.5 signal of origin.  The peaks at 1:57.5 are distanced at the
> same intervals from one another as the set of peaks at 1:55.5, meaning
> no change in medium.  This means that the two second echo has a rock
> source of probably 16 kilometers.  My map shows an island, East- South-
> East of Glenfield.  I believe this echo originates from this island.
> Also, This would suggest the Island is quite dense.
>
> I believe this hum is seismic.  It behaves as if it is traveling
> through rock and water, and has no origin in air or other medium.
> Radio, VLF, or other electromagnetic phenomenon can be ruled out as
> the source, since all of my listening skills tend to tell me this is
> the sound of huge portions of rock shifting and grinding together.  A
> little research shows me that you have both seismic and volcanic hot
> spots in the region.
>
> If you load the waveform into Audacity, you have the ability to play
> it back at different speeds and different pitches.  If you play the
> waveform back at 150% normal speed, the effect is amazingly
> revealing.  Some of the source of the sound is actually the sound of
> automobiles accelerating on the highway.  This is very, very clearly
> automobiles.  It is not, however, the source of the hum.  The
> automobiles are an artifact in the background of the base signal which
> causes the elusive rising and falling in pitch.  The automobile sounds
> are passing through rock, not through air.  The seismic hum is a base
> signal which remains much more steady, like a constant ‘growl.’
>
> Sometimes listening to a noise source with the pitch altered, the
> speed, or even in reverse can be extremely revealing.  If you play the
> Glenfield at 3 times normal speed in reverse, you can actually
> distinguish automobiles accelerating and decelerating – it sounds
> identical to a race track.  This would be the highway East of the
> center of Glenfield.
>
> The Taos, New Mexico hum is infinitely more puzzling.  There is no
> road noise.  A map of Taos shows nothing but minor, rural highways.
>
> There is a function in Audacity called beat finder.  It is an
> algorithm which detects peaks in the sample.  If you run beat finder
> (under Analyze) at 35% it displays a series of peaks.  There is a 170
> millisecond series that appears at irregular intervals, probably an
> echo in rock.  Otherwise, the sound is utterly random.
>
> A recording of the Chaco Canyon NM hum sounds like machinery.  The
> State Park is about 60 miles north-west of the Los Alamos
> Hydroelectric Dam.  A speeded up recording at 3x reveals a very
> regular periodic cycle to it.  At regular speed the cycle is about
> 2Hz.  In reverse, the cycle sounds identical to forward, meaning that
> the cycle is sinusoidal in origin.  Sinusoidal means not-naturally
> round objects are the source.  The most interesting feature is only
> audible if you raise the pitch two octaves.  An underlying longer
> cycle appears underneath of the short cycle.  The underlying long
> cycle is not sinusoidal.  It is a square function – i.e., on-off-on-
> off-on-off; high-low-high-low-high-low.  Nothing in nature behaves as
> a square function.  The cycle is roughly 500 milliseconds at 3x, or
> 1.5 seconds at normal speed.  Given the regularity and in particular
> the square wave function in the background, there is no possibility
> that the sound recorded in Chaco Canyon NM is of natural origin.
> Visual inspection of the Chaco recording reveals a very clear and
> distinct set of two signals that look to be (be eye) about 60 degree
> out of phase with one another.  Sixty degree phasing and background
> square wave functions tell me this is a power station.  Los Alamos is
> about 60 miles East.  I believe it is noise carried through the water
> table.  The Los Alamos Hydroelectric plant is there.  The water table
> at Chaco Canyon is only 40 feet.
>
> The Taos water Table is about 100 feet.  Unlike the Chaco and
> Glenfield recordings, there don’t appear to be any distinguishable
> resonances in the Taos recording, i.e., no echoes.  A Google map shows
> me there’s truly nothing around Taos.  Taos only distinguishing
> feature is being at 7000 feet above sea level.  According to
> Wikipedia, Taos is famous for the Taos Plateau volcanic field.  “The
> Taos Plateau volcanic field is an area of extensive volcanism in Taos
> County, New Mexico, United States.”  New Mexico Tech (NMT.edu)
> regularly records seismic activity in the 2 to 4 range in the area.
> It seems clear to me the source of the Taos hum is seismic.  Being
> elevated and nothing for the resonances to echo off of, the quality of
> the Taos hum lacks cyclic periods and sounds only like a low constant
> random growl.
>
> If anyone has other recordings of this hum, please email them to me at
> [email protected].  Please put in all caps HUM in the subject line
> so I know its not junk mail.  Also, I need the details of where the
> hum recording was made.
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