I've heard it in Paris!

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On 2 Nov 2011, at 20:02, f5obv <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't think the hum is coming from gas pipes, I've heard the hum in
> mountainous areas very far from any possible gas pipes, what I've
> noticed however :
> -It definitely does not come from my body
> -It exists outside and propagates in the air like any other sound
> -Its propagation is affected by areas of low and high pressures
> -It can stop altogether when the wind here comes from the south and
> when an area of high pressure is blocked on my region
> -I live in Pau in SouthWest France and the source of the hum is west
> or sligthly south west from here.
> -I've never heard it on the Altantic beaches so far
> -There are places where I often go and I've never heard it there (I've
> never heard it in Paris).
> -The pitch sometimes seems in synch with the electric motors around my
> house when I switch them on and sometimes the pitch of the hum adds
> and resonates with it, so the electric grid could influence the pitch
> of the hum.
> Have you noticed the same type of things in the areas where you live?
> Let's check our experiences!
> All the best from the sunny Pyrenees.
> JM
> 
> On 29 oct, 13:23, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Not electrical - this tallies with the Faraday cage reports of non
>> cessation- but ONLY Gas pipes?
>> Presumably, if this is so, then people miles out at sea or in an
>> aircraft will not get hum?
>> Background noise can be high in these environments -so only a bad
>> sufferer would tell.
>> If the hum is all gas pipelines extending 50 miles out it doesn't
>> leave room for much else.
>> Unlikely too, to get all the pressure pumps switched off as this would
>> shut down every country..
>> Some hum reports are out in the wilds, where pipelines don't exist -
>> but they are events hard to dig out, like the people 'under way' as
>> above.
>> 
>> On Oct 28, 2:31 am, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> I wish I could share all the data, testing and work gone into proving
>>> out the gas lines are causing the HUM in the western part of CT and
>>> within a hundred miles of here.  It comprises of FFT, Spectragraphs,
>>> regional acoustic mapping, data from reprots of 2 consultants hired to
>>> sway us away from electrical power line and gas compressor sources
>>> (it's not electrical!).   Mapping around the country vs the US NG grid
>>> with 99 % accuracy of hum locations in the proximity of these lines
>>> are very conclusive.  You might want to check the latest map filed in
>>> the yahoo hum forum files section.  At any rate, the next steps which
>>> are really getting resistance, is to get the info into the local news,
>>> gather support and push the politicans who are afraid to let this be
>>> expsoed into taking action by an investigation.  As john dawes
>>> mentions, many obstacles to clear investigation get in teh way.
>>> Obviously there are non supporters of this hypotheis, but I haven't
>>> seen one iota of good research work to dispute it.
>> 
>>> The way this will come to a head is putting this in teh way of
>>> expansion, and convincing open minded people what harm this is casuing
>>> to us and teh ecossytem.  Constant bombradment of ILFN causing seishe
>>> waves in pools here certainly is not good....
>> 
>>> On Oct 2, 6:20 pm, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>> The conveyance of the sound waves through the ground are not audible
>>>> until some mechanism of reasonance is encountered. At that time the
>>>> sound waves (ILFN) become noise to those able to hear the lower
>>>> frequencies.  More people actually sense a pressure of the ears, or if
>>>> intense enough breathing, nausea distress.  Tested this out 15 feet
>>>> below grade the other day in an office building storage area that is
>>>> 0.95 miles from 2 misbehaving gas lines (36 and 30 inch). Human
>>>> perception of this stuff varies greatly.
>> 
>>>> On Sep 7, 7:22 am, Trev <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>> The problem is this- Is Hum noise, or NOT?
>>>>> If it's noise [technically] this means there's no info in it, either
>>>>> way.
>>>>> I think the fact it could be 'other than' noise is an added dimension
>>>>> and worries people.
>>>>> If Hum can be construed as a controlling or info gathering technique
>>>>> then it becomes much more 'dark'.
>> 
>>>>> Now- here's the problem- if it's industrial pollution, AS WELL as a
>>>>> background pickup of secret technology[ies]- & then are merged by the
>>>>> ubiquitous nature of the human ear, as coupled to the central nervous
>>>>> system and brain.
>>>>> Both these sources will be blanked by their respective generators, for
>>>>> fear of disclosure- and while they are merged on receipt, no one can
>>>>> untangle the process[es] in order to present a case.
>>>>> The main drift [under this scenario] of the forum is to provide a open
>>>>> haven where experiences can be discussed and support given, where
>>>>> possible.
>>>>> This is not a lame response, just practical -under these
>>>>> circumstances.
>>>>> Probably, almost everyone who has posted here has a fair point to
>>>>> make- and it's a 'good thing' that the net affords instant and varied
>>>>> feedback on this and many other difficult subjects.
>> 
>>>>> On Sep 7, 12:16 am, Steve K <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>> Heres the problem.  As expereinced by Will - extreme frustration.
>>>>>> Whatever everyones tested or surmised postions are, the entire
>>>>>> complaint process (or lack of of) is so fragmented, no one will ever
>>>>>> get critical mass to get the influeneced politicans to investigate
>>>>>> this crap.  Do you realize there are tens of thousands of this problem
>>>>>> around a dozen or so industrialized countries.
>> 
>>>>>> As far as getting tedious, accepted, especially after two years of
>>>>>> intense work. This pipeline thing is not by desire, it is a fallout of
>>>>>> fortunate circumstance for us explainaing a revelation of the years of
>>>>>> no one being able to explain this. This pipline thing is so complex, I
>>>>>> can understand the lack of  buy in, that's teh problem with this type
>>>>>> media.  No problem.  Anyhow, nothing stopping this train until real
>>>>>> research either proves or disproves this.  In the meantime, I am sure
>>>>>> there are many other causes, and if all studied like we have done
>>>>>> here, maybe we'll get answers.
>> 
>>>>>> On Aug 16, 9:28 am, dboots <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>> hmmm   most likely by now their is giving the high number of research
>>>>>>> programs that have gone into creating  software and hardware to mimic
>>>>>>> the human ear their has to be some recording devices of  microphones
>>>>>>> that likely have a capacity to pick up the lower ELF or some of the
>>>>>>> higher VHF similiar to how our ears would percieve frequencys and
>>>>>>> convert that into vibrations.   They didn't get to start designing
>>>>>>> brain models without figuring out how our sensory pathways take what
>>>>>>> it senses and convert it into cell signaling data that makes it way to
>>>>>>> the brain
>> 
>>>>>>>    The ears are a unique piece of the brains learning process's as
>>>>>>> they are so uniquely tied in to bone conduction too.   The ears hear
>>>>>>> what is happening outside our bodies as well as hearing some of the
>>>>>>> blood that flows thru our bodies.
>> 
>>>>>>>   I have been hearing their is a new advanced mircophone on the market
>>>>>>> (perhaps someone can rent it because it costs about $35,000 brand
>>>>>>> new)  The hum seems to interfere with our memory pathways too, so I am
>>>>>>> sorry the name of this brand of microphone is alluding me at the
>>>>>>> moment
>> 
>>>>>>>    Well I don't think that after all these years it is not as
>>>>>>> classified as we think.   I think if proof can be obtained, and
>>>>>>> repeated by others, their is a likeyhood it will be published.  This
>>>>>>> is one of those conspiracy theory's that they don't seem to mind as
>>>>>>> much about of the media doing stories on it,
>> 
>>>>>>>  I understand your position about hypothesis.   Not too many of them
>>>>>>> seem solid to my common sense either.   They might be pieces of the
>>>>>>> bigger picture but they are not the main culprit is my opinon.   And
>>>>>>> so many want it to be something normal  of our everyday lifes rather
>>>>>>> than going outside the box to seek answers.
>> 
>>>>>>>   Hang in their.   Their is no easy path for us to go forward on.
>>>>>>> Our data is limited and we are stuck with our own common sense trying
>>>>>>> to figure it out as we go along.
>> 
>>>>>>>   But I have to agree with Steve, being disrespectful won't get you
>>>>>>> anyplace.    Disrepect seems also to be a tool of the trade of trolls.
>> 
>>>>>>> take care
>>>>>>> Dee
>> 
>>>>>>> On Aug 6, 1:56 am, Will Godson <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>>>>>>> I wrote to Rosmary at the LFNSA. She wrote me back a very nice letter
>>>>>>>> but in it she states she does not hear the hum. So much for that line
>>>>>>>> of enquiry. As for the other pointers 1. There is not a microphone
>>>>>>>> invented that is as good as the human ear. 2. It's obvious who are the
>>>>>>>> genuine hearers and who are trolls. 3. Since we are dealing with
>>>>>>>> something classified top secret no one will be allowed to publish
>>>>>>>> anything which even hints at the truth.- Hide quoted text -
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