Hi Thomas !
very nice setup you have there :-)
it's always great to see what a creative mind can do with linux !
would you be interested in writing down what you have created ? a bit like
the description i made of my live setup (see
http://hydrogen-music.org/hcms/node/29)
i would really like to put some more user setups on the site, i always find
it very inspiring to read how other people are working.
think about it and let me know what you think
grtz
Thijs
2011/6/15 Thomas Orgis <[email protected]>
> Am Tue, 14 Jun 2011 17:18:27 +0200
> schrieb Dennis Drummer <[email protected]>:
>
> > But Hydrogen hasn't got features like Aftertouch or Midi CC Messages.
> Could
> > it be possible, to implement this features for full edrum support?
>
> I'd like to chime in here ... I investigated use of Hydrogen as drum
> machine for live play and also got hold of the idea behind the CC fun my
> Roland TD10 generates. I do have Hydrogen in live playing use now, but with
> a simpler, more portable MIDI trigger set (Alesis ControlPad with digital
> hihat / custom double bass trigger "pedals" and 2 Yamaha cymbal pads
> connected).
>
> I missed features for opening/closing the HiHat (so I can use one
> pad/cymbal for both hihat sounds) and choking of cymbals. But there's a way
> around that. Choking actually works for me by putting one trigger input into
> one mute group with the cymbals and put a silent sample on it --- hydrogen
> is configured to choke off the other playing samples in the group when I hit
> this specific pad. But you don't want to choke one cymbal with the other, so
> I have two groups and have set up a trick to choke both groups with the
> "choke pad": I duplicate the MIDI event and emulate two "choke pads".
>
> The other use of my MIDI filter is to switch the hihat sound between open
> and closed based on pressing/releasing the foot "pedal" (a button,
> really;-). This again simply modifies the MIDI notes passed to hydrogen. You
> can widen the concept for the CC messages from the Roland gear: Just switch
> the notes the HiHat input note is mapped to. I doubt you'll need 127 notes
> for that as I don't think you really have the patience to record that many
> samples;-)
>
> You could do something similar with the positional sensing info ...
> defining a few zones per drum (it's not that ultra-accurate anyway). So you
> could use hydrogen as massive sample database with n times the actual drums
> you have as instruments and have the mapper rework the MIDI data to trigger
> those. Eventually, one can think of merging that MIDI mapper stuff into
> hydrogen, but the beauty of it is that with the external solution, hydrogen
> folks don't need to wrap their heads around the more elaborate instrument
> model;-)
>
> Though, I admit, a drum model that equals that what the Roland drum
> computers do would be nice to have in the end. Anyhow, you can have a look
> at my MIDI mapper at http://scm.orgis.org/view/thor/midi/hihatmap.c . It's
> really a simple hack. Usage means running that program, then using aconnect
> to have the hardware MIDI input given to this program and its output to
> hydrogen. I got scripts to automate that on my machine, so that I connect
> the ControlPad, start jackd, run "drumkit" in a terminal and can start
> playing.
>
> Using such a mapper, you can work out what you want with the custom CC
> messages from your Roland ... I guess you can also detect the choking of the
> pads (delay till note-off, I guess). I didn't bother to extend my
> experiments to that, as the Alesis works fine as transportable drum kit (it
> fits into a backpack;-) ... and the Roland drum computer ... well, it works,
> and it's quite an effort to make something better. Only thing that sucks is
> that you can't easily feed it new sample sets ... but you'd also have to get
> your hands on a better sample set compared to what's build in (and I'm not
> sure on what "modelling" is really there where one can tune the parameters
> like drum depth & material, muffling, head tuning).
>
>
> Alrighty then,
>
> Thomas.
>
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