On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 01:53:25PM -0400, Dave Allan wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 03:19:42PM +0200, Thomas Orgis wrote:
> > Am Thu, 23 Jun 2011 11:40:53 +0200
> > schrieb thijs van severen <[email protected]>: 
> > 
> > > @Thomas : what is your audio latency reported by jack?
> 
> In my experience, the latency configured for jack is the only
> noticeable latency on the system.  I'd have to boot my kit to tell
> what my jack settings are, but the out of the box jack config on
> Fedora has fairly noticeable latency.  Even on the very old hardware I
> use for my kit I was able to turn down the latency until I could not
> notice it.

FWIW, the latency reported by jack on my kit is 5.33ms.  I've heard
that <10ms is not noticable by the human ear, and my experience pretty
much agrees with that.

> Actually, there is one other thing, if you are using USB sound cards
> for MIDI in and audio out, make sure they're not on the same USB bus.
> That caused unpleasant latency as well.
> 
> Dave
> 
> > More below...
> > 
> > > On 23 Jun 2011 11:13, "Krzysztof Foltman" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 23/06/11 08:17, Thomas Orgis wrote:
> > > 
> > > > So, my Roland drum brain is a bit quicker as the current c...
> > > Not as unlikely as you think. My old drum brain (infamous Fame DD602)
> > > had a horrendous latency on its MIDI output.
> > 
> > To clarify: I am comparing the MIDI setup with playing on a Roland TD-10 
> > set, the Roland drum brain is not involved with Hydrogen. The MIDI data 
> > comes from an Alesis ControlPad which really is just a MIDI trigger, no 
> > drum brain involved. So I'd assume that since triggering MIDI events from 
> > hitting pads is the only purpose of the device, it does that without 
> > noticeable delay;-)
> > But I can test that, connecting it as trigger to the Roland brain's MIDI 
> > input. If that shows clearly less latency, then I know something on the PC 
> > side is to blame. Heck... I can even connect the Alesis to the PC and route 
> > to a separate MIDI adapter into the Roland brain. If _that_ doesn't show 
> > the same latency, then Hydrogen is looking highly suspicious;-)
> > 
> > And about JACK: I actaully got confused as I _think_ (talking of hunches 
> > here) that the latency improved while going from 3x64 to 3x256 or 2x512 
> > periods ... or at least it didn't get _worse_. That, and the fact that you 
> > can rather nicely play guitar without noticing much of latency when using 
> > 3x256 or such on this laptop, suggests that JACK is not the source of the 
> > latency I feel there. But granted, the guitar play was with an USB audio 
> > interface ... the drumming was with the internal sound chip. But I'd be 
> > surprised if the USB interface had less latency than the internal chip.
> > 
> > 
> > Alrighty then,
> > 
> > Thomas.
> 
> 
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