Hi Laurent, please see my comments inline:
On 11/03/08 09:30, Laurent Blume wrote: > Petr Hruska a ?crit : > >> not all translations is provided by SUN. Quite a lot of l10n content is >> coming from community projects like GNOME, Mozilla, OpenOffice etc .. >> For translations made directly by Sun there is linguistic and technical >> review. But let me double check with translation team first that I can >> answer your question correctly. >> > > Well, I understand the point, but that's *exactly* the job of Sun, when > it puts together a commercial distribution with paid support: to ensure > it's a coherent, consistent whole, and not a bunch of applications put > together at random. > basically I agree. I can't comment much here as I'm not involved deeply enough in l10n processes and infrastructure. I have highlighted your feedback to l10n team. > I wouldn't want ?Community? projects to become an excuse for Sun's own > distribution and trademark loss of quality. > As a member of QA If there is an issue with poor quality or inconsistency of some translation, please report it to opensolaris bugzilla. It's a right place to track the issue and if one need to argue for quality, having concrete issues on the list is always something good to have. > >> Yes some consolidation is needed. Currently we are preparing new i18n >> community main page that should provide better overview of all project >> g11n is doing .. should be available soon at: >> http://www.opensolaris.org/os/community/int_localization/ >> > > Hopefuly it'll make things easier, but really, I don't think so, seem y > comment below. > > >> As for G11n OpenSolaris test activities, those are currently managed >> within http://wikis.sun.com/display/g11n/OpenSolaris+G11n+Test+Group . >> I'm cc'ing i18n-discuss alias to share test results or projects we are >> doing in test group. Once opensolaris will migrate to wiki format we >> will move there and I hope this will also help to consolidate our pages >> and projects. >> > > This os confusing! What OpenSolaris are we talking about here?! Can I > request that you use the term ?Sun's OpenSolaris binary distribution? > rather than just ?OpenSolaris?? > well don't see your point completely here. G11n Test Group is having various activities around OpenSolaris project. As for "OpenSolaris binary distribution" section we are referring that as Indiana project or OpenSolaris yyyy.mm release activities. I hope it's correct. > And why is it using mailing lists on opensolaris.org rather than > opensolaris.com, which has been touted as the place for Sun's commercial > distribution? > Whole OpenSolaris including OpenSolaris yyyy.mm binary distribution releases are open source and g11n test group activities are based around that. Can you give me an example on what closed source test group is working/testing ? I'm pretty sure opensolaris.org is right alias for us. > I'll repeat it, again and again: this is CONFUSING. Some people want to > work on Open Source projects, and Indiana is not one, by any measure. It > contains a lot of closed source code. I understand why, it's ok with me, > but as a leader for translation for the OpenSolaris *PROJECT*, I find it > increasingly difficult to explain to volunteers what they're actually > working for. > please give us example what source code is inside Indiana ? It's definitely legal issues if there is any and we have to remove it asap. > We spend way too much time explaining to people why the OpenSolaris > project is FOSS, and this is not helping. > > And I am not motivated to spend my own, unpaid, free time to sort apart > what Sun is deliberately making confusing. > > Please make things clear. > I wish all things are clear and hope situation will improve. At least some useful things like wiki pages for opensolaris.org are coming and also infrastructure and processes will be fully open. Thanks & Regards, Petr H. > Laurent > -- ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ Petr Hruska - Software Engineer - Prague G11n Phone: +420 233 009 330 (x49330) email: petr.hruska at sun.com Sun Microsystems Czech, s.r.o. ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~ ~
