Hi,

Since I replied to this in another thread, let me remark again my position.

The terms stated in the claims concern me. If the claimer could change the 
terms into something similar to those in https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/2611/ 
that would clear my concerns.

Be goode,

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On 06/06/2019, 19:27, "I2nsf on behalf of Yoav Nir" 
<i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org<mailto:i2nsf-boun...@ietf.org> on behalf of 
ynir.i...@gmail.com<mailto:ynir.i...@gmail.com>> wrote:

Hi

Yesterday we got 5 IPR statements ([1], [2], [3], [4], [5]) related to the 
following drafts respectively:
·
·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-facing-interface-dm
·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-nsf-monitoring-data-model
·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-capability-data-model
·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-registration-interface-dm
·         draft-ietf-i2nsf-consumer-facing-interface-dm

All of these are WG documents, and one of them (the capability data model 
draft) is in WGLC.  See [6] and RFC 8179 for more information about IPR 
disclosures.

All the disclosures claim that the patents or patent applications mentioned may 
be necessary for implementation of the drafts. Neither the chairs nor anyone 
else in the IETF is considered competent to evaluate such claims or the 
validity of any patents, so I suggest that in this thread we avoid bringing 
this up. What may be concerning is that the licensing policy for these 
disclosures is "Reasonable and Non-Discriminatory License to All Implementers 
with Possible Royalty/Fee”, which makes such technologies problematic to many 
implementers, especially non-commercial ones.

To quote from section 7 of RFC 8179:

   In general, IETF working groups prefer technologies with no known IPR

   claims or, for technologies with claims against them, an offer of

   royalty-free licensing.  However, to solve a given technical problem,

   IETF working groups have the discretion to adopt a technology as to

   which IPR claims have been made if they feel that this technology is

   superior enough to alternatives with fewer IPR claims or free

   licensing to outweigh the potential cost of the licenses.


So this message is to start a discussion about how the I2NSF working group 
would like to handle this disclosure. Continuing as before and moving to 
publication is the default outcome of this discussion, but the WG is required 
to evaluate its position about these disclosures. This is what this thread is 
for.

Thanks,


Linda & Yoav

[1] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3553/
[2] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3557/
[3] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3556/
[4] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3555/
[5] https://datatracker.ietf.org/ipr/3554/
[6] https://www.ietf.org/standards/ipr/

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