Are there any User Stories/Use Cases for creating narratives? On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 3:30 PM, Seth Woodworth <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Wow, I'm really really glad to see this kind of conversation happening. > This kind of reflection is exactly what is going to make sugar the defacto > education platform. > > > I think that two things are needed for children to create narratives; tools > as has already have been discussed (I suggest Audacity for audio editing, > already packaged, need to be improved). Secondly I would like to see the > ability to upstream. > > > Ideally I would like the school server to host blogs, edublog, or some > other method of wysiwyg publishing of websites. We have talked a lot about > the XO allowing people to communicate up and out about the troubles they > face in these countries[1], to make us aware of how we can help/teach (or > not as the events warrent). > > > There aren't academic formal education studies about how OLPC/Sugar is > improving education. If anecetdotal is all that exists, let's use it to > engage our community, to encourage volunteerism. > > > Free software == awesome > Free software that you can see helping people *>* awesome > > > > [1] http://asia.cnet.com/blogs/high-on-a-hill/post.htm?id=63006514&t=tag > > > --Seth > > > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:20 PM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote: > >> On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 2:06 PM, David Farning <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> wrote: >> > This takes us back to the collaboration server discussions from last >> week. >> > >> > Rather than attempting to organizing content it may be preferable to >> improve >> > the tools which help users self organize into communities. >> > >> > Last night I got into a discussion about the value of the Neighborhood >> view >> > with my 2nd grade niece:) She was pretty befuddled as to why she had to >> > chose between belkin_019, linksys_1, meshview_11,.... From her >> perspective >> > it made more sense to click on 'Mrs. Kings class' if she wanted to do >> her >> > homework, or 'After school fun' if she wanted to talk with her friends. >> > >> > While the idea of APs and mesh networks is important to us as geeks and >> > developers. From a user point of view the idea of virtual communities >> or >> > rooms seems clearer. >> > >> > Maybe it is my misunderstanding of the nature of a jabber sever. A IRC >> > server is pretty useless until the users can self select into channels. >> > >> > Possibly, the idea of manipulating narratives could be best handled by >> > helping communities develop which can discover, share, and reflect on >> > _their_own_ stories. >> > >> > thanks >> > david >> > >> > On Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 11:39 AM, Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > >> > wrote: >> >> >> >> We need to add an its.an.education.project alias to this list... >> >> >> >> -walter >> >> >> >> ---------- Forwarded message ---------- >> >> From: Walter Bender <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Date: Sun, Oct 5, 2008 at 12:29 PM >> >> Subject: Re: [sugar] Narrative >> >> To: Sameer Verma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> Cc: Bryan Berry <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED], sugar >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "its. an. education. project" >> >> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> >> >> >> >> >> Each of us seems to have interpreted Michael's note differently, so >> >> perhaps some more clarity of definitions is in order. In any case, my >> >> focus was on the assertion that there are "no excellent way to >> >> manipulate narratives" within Sugar. Excellence is the standard we >> >> should be striving for and I do agree we have a ways to go in terms of >> >> developing tools for "manipulating" "narratives" within Sugar. But it >> >> seems a funny dichotomy: manipulating narratives vs. modes for >> >> discovery. >> >> >> >> When I think about Sugar, I think about its providing a scaffolding >> >> for discovering, expressing, critiquing, and reflecting. Manipulating >> >> narrative seems to cut across all of these area (as does >> >> collaboration). We have a browser--the "discovery" platform du >> >> jour--but also an ebook reader and media player, and various tools for >> >> collecting and inspecting data (e.g, Measure and Distance). In terms >> >> of expression, we have a wide variety of tools, including word >> >> processing, rich media, programming, etc. Tools for critique and >> >> reflection seems the least developed thus far: we have chat and we >> >> have sharing and simple debugging tools, and we have the Journal, but >> >> we don't yet support (natively) much in the way of organizing data to >> >> make an analysis or argument. Is this the role Bryan expects Moodle to >> >> play? If so, I don't really see how. There are beginnings of tools >> >> such as spreadsheets, mindmaps, etc. being "Sugarized". What else >> >> should we add to this list? There is also a powerful presentation >> >> toolkit built into Etoys--is it the lack of PowerPoint that Bryan is >> >> missing?--but it is not very easy to find. Perhaps something more >> >> wiki-like or HTML-based would be better. Having it available off-line >> >> is probably as important as accessing an on-line system, such as is >> >> already available in Moodle and in general on any GNU/Linux (or even >> >> Windows) server. In terms of organizing school itself, Moodle and its >> >> like certainly have an important role to play. Sugar is not intended >> >> to be all things, but part of a learning ecosystem. >> >> >> >> There is certainly a paucity of lesson plans developed around Sugar: >> >> how does one best leverage this collection of tools for learning. And >> >> undoubtedly, a dearth of content readily packaged and categorized. But >> >> I don't see these as fundamental design flaws in Sugar as much as a >> >> place where more effort needs to be invested. Sugar is reaching a >> >> point of maturity where such investments make sense. >> >> >> >> In any case, I'd love to hear Michael's "interesting ideas". >> >> >> >> -walter >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Walter Bender >> >> Sugar Labs >> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> >> [email protected] >> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > >> > >> >> >> I like your niece's model of the neighborhood view--maybe we can have >> some way of generating aliases for the various APs based upon which >> Jabber server you are on; the Jabber servers themselves could have >> nicknames too, based on their intended constituency. But it skirts the >> question of what tools communities use to organize content and >> generate their narratives. >> >> -walter >> >> -- >> Walter Bender >> Sugar Labs >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >> _______________________________________________ >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >> [email protected] >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > [email protected] > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Caroline Meeks Solution Grove [EMAIL PROTECTED] 617-500-3488 - Office 505-213-3268 - Fax
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