On Wed, Apr 20, 2011 at 8:52 PM, Yamandu Ploskonka <yamap...@gmail.com> wrote: > AFAIK (please correct me) Uruguay is not providing code, thus in violation > of GNU license, and this situation has not been solved after several years.
This is a serious accusation. Can you please provide some backup? Specific to Sugar? > > With GPL 3 will the Uruguay security code be considered a System Library and > thus exempt from providing code? That might be an elegant way out from what > I believe has been their systematic non-compliance in this respect, and > maybe get them to open the rest (which is silly, as the machines would still > be blocked...) I am not sure that this is relevant to Sugar per se, but if so, please explain which security code is applicable. > > BTW, and regarding that, what's the point of having a license if such clear > violation just go like that forever? we all know that the desire that kids > would do stuff with source just hasn't happened so much (I agree with Martin > there), but nevertheless it is common knowledge that I have not been the > only one that has been given the "oso" by Ceibal... And requests from real > potential developers are apparently not going anywhere, to the point that > Walter had to take a liberated XO to a UY kid for that purpose. Again, this was not in respect to Sugar. Also, last time I was .uy, I was told that full access to the machine was part of the Ceibal upgrade plan. I have not seen evidence one way or another to suggest that this is not still the plan. > > if enforcing the license is not possible, then I respectfully submit that > this meeting agree that Sugar be distributed as Public Domain, so at least > we do not have the appearance of some limits when those are not to be > enforced, or something that works. BTW, I believe that there is an > obligation by right-holders to at least attempt to enforce their rights, and > if they do not, it can legally be assumed they have none. I am no expert > but took some training in this respect a while back. I think we need some of the above questions answered before we pursue such a course. -walter > > And no, saying that this is being taken care of will not work anymore, > Martin. (unless actually it has been solved, in which case hip hip hooray > and my apologies). > > Thanks! > > Yama > > On 04/20/2011 05:55 PM, Walter Bender wrote: >> >> If you have time before tomorrow's meeting, please take a look at >> http://www.gnu.org/licenses/quick-guide-gplv3.html >> >> regards. >> >> -walter >> > -- Walter Bender Sugar Labs http://www.sugarlabs.org _______________________________________________ IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep