Thanks Caryl !! That is what we need, volunteers. Gonzalo
On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 4:18 PM, Caryl Bigenho <cbige...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Hi All > > For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will help, I'll > do the election. It can't be that much work. I have no conflicts of > interest. What would I need to do? > > Caryl > > > From: la...@somosazucar.org > > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500 > > To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org > > CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org > > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time? > > > > > Adam, > > > > To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all the love to my > > husband, I can only respond that I believe I have enough skills and > > merit by myself. > > > > Best wishes, > > Laura V > > > > > > > > 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva <sebast...@fuentelibre.org>: > > > Well, > > > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here. > > > > > > Your question is only a technical question, and the whole process has > always > > > been/forever will be open for scrutiny. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Sebastian > > > > > > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibió: > > > > > > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine with me, > how do > > > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with his wife > running > > > for office, and himself running the election? > > > > > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva < > sebast...@fuentelibre.org> > > > wrote: > > >> > > >> Yes, > > >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email: > > >> > > >> I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct 2014. > > >> I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the board, > as > > >> per the governance model. > > >> > > >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally. > > >> > > >> Regards, > > >> Sebastian > > >> > > >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: > > >> > > >> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the elections > committee > > >> to replace Luke. > > >> > > >> Gonzalo > > >> > > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender < > walter.ben...@gmail.com> > > >> wrote: > > >>> > > >>> Sebastian, > > >>> > > >>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We made public > > >>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want to ask the > > >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be > > >>> concrete in your proposal. > > >>> > > >>> regards. > > >>> > > >>> -walter > > >>> > > >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva > > >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: > > >>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about election at the > end > > >>> > of > > >>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say: > > >>> > > > >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, consisting of > seven > > >>> > (7) > > >>> > members elected by the Sugar community--the Sugar Membership. The > > >>> > positions > > >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered basis. The > > >>> > members of > > >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at any time > by a > > >>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the resignation or > removal > > >>> > of a > > >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members shall elect a > > >>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight Board. > > >>> > > > >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do elections > should > > >>> > not > > >>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee. > > >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA. > > >>> > > > >>> > At any rate this course of events should've been > discussed/announced to > > >>> > the > > >>> > Sugar Labs members. > > >>> > > > >>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with expired > period > > >>> > would > > >>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 candidates would > be > > >>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last year, > except no > > >>> > shortage). > > >>> > > > >>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee since Oct > 2014. > > >>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by the > board, as > > >>> > per > > >>> > the governance model. > > >>> > > > >>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do the > gruntwork > > >>> > to run > > >>> > the election. > > >>> > > > >>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members wish and > the > > >>> > accepted oversight board. > > >>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow > > >>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members : > > >>> > > > >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit] > > >>> > > > >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list is > reflective of > > >>> > the > > >>> > current status of the project and its participants, once a year > members > > >>> > will > > >>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar Labs > Member. If > > >>> > this > > >>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to after it > has > > >>> > been > > >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, and c) six > > >>> > months > > >>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice with an > > >>> > invitation to > > >>> > reapply. > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to begin working > with > > >>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment. > > >>> > > > >>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community about the > election > > >>> > process. > > >>> > > > >>> > Regards, > > >>> > Sebastian > > >>> > > > >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió: > > >>> > > > >>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term > replacements > > >>> > due to > > >>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something worth > amending > > >>> > them > > >>> > to include. > > >>> > > > >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender > > >>> > <walter.ben...@gmail.com> > > >>> > wrote: > > >>> >> > > >>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have fewer > candidates > > >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll run another > > >>> >> election at the end of 2015. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> Regards. > > >>> >> > > >>> >> -walter > > >>> >> > > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas < > la...@somosazucar.org> > > >>> >> wrote: > > >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your intructions at > that > > >>> >> > time... > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when we have > enough > > >>> >> > candidates. > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need? > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard < > godi...@sugarlabs.org>: > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas > > >>> >> >> <la...@somosazucar.org> > > >>> >> >> wrote: > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo, > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are going to > me be > > >>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board members with > long > > >>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have shown > interest, > > >>> >> >>> like > > >>> >> >>> I have > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> Hi Laura, > > >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your candidature? > > >>> >> >> You only needed add your name to > > >>> >> >> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only two > candidates to > > >>> >> >> fill 4 > > >>> >> >> seats. > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> Gonzalo > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) we can > run a > > >>> >> >>> democratic community soon! > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard < > godi...@sugarlabs.org>: > > >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian, > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies from the > > >>> >> >>> > deployments > > >>> >> >>> > confidential > > >>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions without > naming the > > >>> >> >>> > deployment > > >>> >> >>> > involved. > > >>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved in > negotiation > > >>> >> >>> > with > > >>> >> >>> > countries will understand. > > >>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number of hardware > with > > >>> >> >>> > X > > >>> >> >>> > software, > > >>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure. > > >>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive. > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting with all the > > >>> >> >>> >> members > > >>> >> >>> >> fro > > >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs, > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern? > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies. > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc or email. > > >>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are trying > > >>> >> >>> > something > > >>> >> >>> > different. > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the community and > > >>> >> >>> >> teachers, > > >>> >> >>> >> like > > >>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list. > > >>> >> >>> >> > > >>> >> >>> >> And? > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question. > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo > > >>> >> >>> > > > >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > >>> >> >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >>> >> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> -- > > >>> >> >>> Laura V. > > >>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire > > >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza > > >>> >> >>> > > >>> >> >>> Happy Learning! > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> -- > > >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard > > >>> >> >> > > >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > -- > > >>> >> > Laura V. > > >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire > > >>> >> > IRC kaametza > > >>> >> > > > >>> >> > Happy Learning! > > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > >>> >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> > > >>> >> -- > > >>> >> Walter Bender > > >>> >> Sugar Labs > > >>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org > > >>> >> _______________________________________________ > > >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > >>> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > _______________________________________________ > > >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > >>> > > > >>> > > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> -- > > >>> Walter Bender > > >>> Sugar Labs > > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Gonzalo Odiard > > >> > > >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > >> > > >> -- > > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ http://unleashkids.org ! > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > > > > -- > > Laura V. > > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org > > > > Identi.ca/Skype acaire > > IRC kaametza > > > > Happy Learning! > > _______________________________________________ > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > -- Gonzalo Odiard SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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