Hi Gonzalo, I used my shell account to have a look to /etc/aliases on sunjammer.
Currently memb...@sugarlabs.org directs to the following persons: samsongoddy, walter, bernie It used to be the case that there was a Request Tracker queue for membership, but RT is no longer in use. I don't know when this was changed. I do hope membership applications have been processed. Regards, Sebastian El 13/03/15 a las 08:49, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: > Caryl and Sebastian, > Looks like a plan. > We can confirm that in the next SLOBs meeting. > About memb...@sugarlabs.org <mailto:memb...@sugarlabs.org>, I don't > know who manage that, > maybe Bernie? > > Gonzalo > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 5:09 PM, Sebastian Silva > <sebast...@fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org>> wrote: > > Forgot to mention, we also need to get access to > memb...@sugarlabs.org <mailto:memb...@sugarlabs.org>, since I > suspect new membership applications have gone stale for a long > time now. (see [1]) > > [1] > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members#Applying_for_membership > > El 10/03/15 a las 15:05, Sebastian Silva escibió: >> Hi Caryl, >> Thanks for co-volunteering with me! >> >> As I see it, what needs to be done is: >> 1- Tally up a list of current Sugar Members's emails >> (starting from here >> <http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members/List>) >> 2- Setup a survey to ask if they want to stay active, voting >> members (I propose to use the LimeSurvey software. Infrastructure >> team can set it up and it's easy to use.) >> 3- Get familiar with Selectricity, our current voting >> mechanism. Get access to the voting machine. >> 4- Improve the voting experience. For instance, /en español >> /instructions are a must in this community. >> 5- Determine in consensus /when/ an election will take place. >> >> If we can be formally appointed, I'm certain you will be able to >> contribute to every step of the process. >> >> Regards, >> Sebastian >> >> El 10/03/15 a las 14:18, Caryl Bigenho escibió: >>> Hi All >>> >>> For heaven's sake! No wonder we are always stalled. If it will >>> help, I'll do the election. It can't be that much work. I have >>> no conflicts of interest. What would I need to do? >>> >>> Caryl >>> >>> > From: la...@somosazucar.org <mailto:la...@somosazucar.org> >>> > Date: Tue, 10 Mar 2015 13:54:09 -0500 >>> > To: sebast...@fuentelibre.org <mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org> >>> > CC: iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:iaep@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > Subject: Re: [IAEP] Will anything change this time? >>> > >>> > Adam, >>> > >>> > To your "conflict of interest" concern and with all the love to my >>> > husband, I can only respond that I believe I have enough >>> skills and >>> > merit by myself. >>> > >>> > Best wishes, >>> > Laura V >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > 2015-03-10 13:31 GMT-05:00 Sebastian Silva >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> <mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org>: >>> > > Well, >>> > > It's 2015 and we are all hackers here. >>> > > >>> > > Your question is only a technical question, and the whole >>> process has always >>> > > been/forever will be open for scrutiny. >>> > > >>> > > Regards, >>> > > Sebastian >>> > > >>> > > El 10/03/15 a las 13:25, Adam Holt escibió: >>> > > >>> > > If Sebastian becomes the Elections Committee which is fine >>> with me, how do >>> > > we avoid a more-than-Clintonesque conflict-of-interest with >>> his wife running >>> > > for office, and himself running the election? >>> > > >>> > > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:06 PM, Sebastian Silva >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> <mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org> >>> > > wrote: >>> > >> >>> > >> Yes, >>> > >> Exactly this is my proposal, from my prior email: >>> > >> >>> > >> I have volunteered to be member of elections committee >>> since Oct 2014. >>> > >> I cannot do this work without being appointed the role by >>> the board, as >>> > >> per the governance model. >>> > >> >>> > >> Therefore, the board would have to appoint me formally. >>> > >> >>> > >> Regards, >>> > >> Sebastian >>> > >> >>> > >> El 10/03/15 a las 13:01, Gonzalo Odiard escibió: >>> > >> >>> > >> Would be good if someone volunteer to integrate the >>> elections committee >>> > >> to replace Luke. >>> > >> >>> > >> Gonzalo >>> > >> >>> > >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:47 PM, Walter Bender >>> <walter.ben...@gmail.com> <mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com> >>> > >> wrote: >>> > >>> >>> > >>> Sebastian, >>> > >>> >>> > >>> The election was discussed in public SLOB meetings. We >>> made public >>> > >>> decisions with opportunity for public input. If you want >>> to ask the >>> > >>> board to revisit its decisions, that is fine. Please try to be >>> > >>> concrete in your proposal. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> regards. >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -walter >>> > >>> >>> > >>> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:31 PM, Sebastian Silva >>> > >>> <sebast...@fuentelibre.org> >>> <mailto:sebast...@fuentelibre.org> wrote: >>> > >>> > Actually, the governance model says nothing about >>> election at the end >>> > >>> > of >>> > >>> > every year, nor about shortages of candidates. It does say: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Sugar Labs shall be governed by an Oversight Board, >>> consisting of seven >>> > >>> > (7) >>> > >>> > members elected by the Sugar community—the Sugar >>> Membership. The >>> > >>> > positions >>> > >>> > on the Oversight Board will be on a two-year staggered >>> basis. The >>> > >>> > members of >>> > >>> > the Oversight Board may be removed from the position at >>> any time by a >>> > >>> > majority vote of the Community Members. Upon the >>> resignation or removal >>> > >>> > of a >>> > >>> > member of the Oversight Board, the Community Members >>> shall elect a >>> > >>> > replacement Community Member to serve on the Oversight >>> Board. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In my humble opinion, the decision about when to do >>> elections should >>> > >>> > not >>> > >>> > reside with the board, but with the elections committee. >>> > >>> > Aparently lfaraone is MIA. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > At any rate this course of events should've been >>> discussed/announced to >>> > >>> > the >>> > >>> > Sugar Labs members. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > It could've been expected, that the board members with >>> expired period >>> > >>> > would >>> > >>> > simply no longer be board members and that the 2 >>> candidates would be >>> > >>> > promoted to board members (as pretty much happened last >>> year, except no >>> > >>> > shortage). >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I have volunteered to be member of elections committee >>> since Oct 2014. >>> > >>> > I cannot do this work without being appointed the role >>> by the board, as >>> > >>> > per >>> > >>> > the governance model. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I did not become a candidate because I was expecting do >>> the gruntwork >>> > >>> > to run >>> > >>> > the election. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I will abide by what the majority of Sugar Labs members >>> wish and the >>> > >>> > accepted oversight board. >>> > >>> > If we are to run elections any time we need to also follow >>> > >>> > http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Sugar_Labs/Members : >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Currency assurance policy[edit] >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > In order to ensure that the Sugar Labs Membership list >>> is reflective of >>> > >>> > the >>> > >>> > current status of the project and its participants, once >>> a year members >>> > >>> > will >>> > >>> > be asked to confirm that they still wish to be a Sugar >>> Labs Member. If >>> > >>> > this >>> > >>> > request bounces, or if a request has not been replied to >>> after it has >>> > >>> > been >>> > >>> > a) resent, b) checked for a more current email address, >>> and c) six >>> > >>> > months >>> > >>> > have passed, the member will be sent a removal notice >>> with an >>> > >>> > invitation to >>> > >>> > reapply. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I am in technical capacity and have the good will to >>> begin working with >>> > >>> > these objectives as soon as I get the board's appointment. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > I would like to hear more opinion from the community >>> about the election >>> > >>> > process. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Regards, >>> > >>> > Sebastian >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > El 10/03/15 a las 11:47, Samuel Greenfeld escibió: >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If the current governing documents don't allow mid-term >>> replacements >>> > >>> > due to >>> > >>> > someone resigning or shortages, that might be something >>> worth amending >>> > >>> > them >>> > >>> > to include. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:38 PM, Walter Bender >>> > >>> > <walter.ben...@gmail.com> <mailto:walter.ben...@gmail.com> >>> > >>> > wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> We run elections at the end of each year. If we have >>> fewer candidates >>> > >>> >> than slots to fill, we don't run the election. We'll >>> run another >>> > >>> >> election at the end of 2015. >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> Regards. >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> -walter >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:36 PM, Laura Vargas >>> <la...@somosazucar.org> <mailto:la...@somosazucar.org> >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> > >>> >> > I'm really sorry I didn't understood well your >>> intructions at that >>> > >>> >> > time... >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > Now, my name is on the list ;D >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > According to your logic, we should run elections when >>> we have enough >>> > >>> >> > candidates. >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > How many additional candidates do we need? >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > 2015-03-10 11:23 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >>> <godi...@sugarlabs.org> <mailto:godi...@sugarlabs.org>: >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:18 PM, Laura Vargas >>> > >>> >> >> <la...@somosazucar.org> <mailto:la...@somosazucar.org> >>> > >>> >> >> wrote: >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> Hi Gonzalo, >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> Regarding the Sugar Labs Board, if no elections are >>> going to me be >>> > >>> >> >>> made, how do you justify not to rotate the board >>> members with long >>> > >>> >> >>> time active volunteers? specially those who have >>> shown interest, >>> > >>> >> >>> like >>> > >>> >> >>> I have >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> Hi Laura, >>> > >>> >> >> Why you didn't follow the procedure to make your >>> candidature? >>> > >>> >> >> You only needed add your name to >>> > >>> >> >> >>> http://wiki.sugarlabs.org/go/Oversight_Board/2014-2015-candidates >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> That was requested many times, and there are only >>> two candidates to >>> > >>> >> >> fill 4 >>> > >>> >> >> seats. >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> Thanks and I really hope (for the sake of the kids) >>> we can run a >>> > >>> >> >>> democratic community soon! >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> 2015-03-10 10:06 GMT-05:00 Gonzalo Odiard >>> <godi...@sugarlabs.org> <mailto:godi...@sugarlabs.org>: >>> > >>> >> >>> > Hi Sebastian, >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > In this specific case, we will keep the replies >>> from the >>> > >>> >> >>> > deployments >>> > >>> >> >>> > confidential >>> > >>> >> >>> > and release a general inform with conclusions >>> without naming the >>> > >>> >> >>> > deployment >>> > >>> >> >>> > involved. >>> > >>> >> >>> > There are a reason for that, and anybody involved >>> in negotiation >>> > >>> >> >>> > with >>> > >>> >> >>> > countries will understand. >>> > >>> >> >>> > Every time than a country say will buy N number >>> of hardware with >>> > >>> >> >>> > X >>> > >>> >> >>> > software, >>> > >>> >> >>> > all the big companies start to pressure. >>> > >>> >> >>> > Transparency have a big value, but we can't be naive. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> and we are organizing a face to face meeting >>> with all the >>> > >>> >> >>> >> members >>> > >>> >> >>> >> fro >>> > >>> >> >>> >> SLOBs, >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> How will this help to address Dan's (valid) concern? >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> to discuss strategies. >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > We need do a deep discussion we can't do by irc >>> or email. >>> > >>> >> >>> > I don't know if this is the solution, but we are >>> trying >>> > >>> >> >>> > something >>> > >>> >> >>> > different. >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> We are discussing more ideas, like survey the >>> community and >>> > >>> >> >>> >> teachers, >>> > >>> >> >>> >> like >>> > >>> >> >>> >> was proposed in this list. >>> > >>> >> >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> >> And? >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > I don't understand the question. >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > Gonzalo >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> > >>> >> >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop >>> project!) >>> > >>> >> >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > >>> >> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> -- >>> > >>> >> >>> Laura V. >>> > >>> >> >>> I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>> > >>> >> >>> IRC kaametza >>> > >>> >> >>> >>> > >>> >> >>> Happy Learning! >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> -- >>> > >>> >> >> Gonzalo Odiard >>> > >>> >> >> >>> > >>> >> >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > -- >>> > >>> >> > Laura V. >>> > >>> >> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>> > >>> >> > IRC kaametza >>> > >>> >> > >>> > >>> >> > Happy Learning! >>> > >>> >> > _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> >> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > >>> >> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org >>> <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > >>> >> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> >>> > >>> >> -- >>> > >>> >> Walter Bender >>> > >>> >> Sugar Labs >>> > >>> >> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>> > >>> >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > >>> >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > >>> >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> >>> > >>> -- >>> > >>> Walter Bender >>> > >>> Sugar Labs >>> > >>> http://www.sugarlabs.org >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Gonzalo Odiard >>> > >> >>> > >> SugarLabs - Software for children learning >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> _______________________________________________ >>> > >> IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > >> IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > >> http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >> >>> > >> -- >>> > >> Unsung Heroes of OLPC, interviewed live @ >>> http://unleashkids.org ! >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > >>> > > _______________________________________________ >>> > > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > -- >>> > Laura V. >>> > I&D SomosAZUCAR.Org >>> > >>> > Identi.ca/Skype acaire >>> > IRC kaametza >>> > >>> > Happy Learning! >>> > _______________________________________________ >>> > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) >>> > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> >>> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep >> > > > _______________________________________________ > IAEP -- It's An Education Project (not a laptop project!) > IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org <mailto:IAEP@lists.sugarlabs.org> > http://lists.sugarlabs.org/listinfo/iaep > > > > > -- > Gonzalo Odiard > > SugarLabs - Software for children learning
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