Yg jelas operatornya EM (Exxon-Mobil) dari negara adidaya & sudah menang
perang di Iraq ...?

Terus apa hubungannya dg Shale Gas  ?


Wass,
nyoto



On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 8:29 PM, Anggoro Dradjat <adradjat....@gmail.com>wrote:

> Nama cekungan yang di Polandia  itu apa yaa? shale di formasi apa? kalau
> ngak salah yang di Amerika itu kebanyakan berada di Intra Craton Basin dan
> dari lingkungan pengedapan Lacustrin,
> Kalau yang di Amerika seperti yang dipresentasikan Pak Naslin di UGM,
> horizontal layeringnya terlihat jelas  adanya Vertikal Transfer Isotropic
> yang menggambarkan perbedaan cepat rambat gelombang P secara vertikal,
> perubahan TOC dari shale  juga tercermin dari sonic resistivity DlogR.
> Wah kalau abu-abu isotropic dong, sedikit organiknya  dan ngak fracable.
> Mungkin lokasinya dipilih dari sweet spot seismic? Tapi seharusnya kan
> dilihat dahulu dari data sumur yang ada? apakah sweet spot itu mengambarkan
> zona resistivitas yang tinggi dan zona anisotropi dari shale.
> Kemungkinan yang lain adalah belum ada data sumur, jadi explorasi banget
> buat shale?
> Atau operatornya dari negara dengan kekuatan militer terbesar di dunia
> tapi ngak pernah menang perang...heee...heeee
>
>
> Salam
> Anggoro Dradjat
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 6:04 PM, nyoto - ke-el <ssoena...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
>> Apakah itu berarti operatornya tertipu atau ditipu atau salah
>> interpretasi sebelumnya sehingga mengexecute project tsb ? Rasa2nya
>> operator sebesar EM itu dg jumlah PhD nya yg sampai 600 (email cak Avi),
>> tidak mungkin deh. Atau ada info2 lain ?
>>
>> Wass,
>> nyoto
>>
>>  On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 3:49 PM, naslin lainda <nas...@rediffmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Tadi saya barusan ngobrol ama teman yg terlibat di eksplorasi shale gas
>>> di polandia ini. Katanya TOC nya rendah dibawah 1%. Dari foto core nya
>>> warnanya abu2, bukan seperti black shale yg di US. Jadi kayaknya bukan
>>> organic rich shale yg mereka dapatkan.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Naslin
>>>
>>>
>>> From: "rakhmadi avianto"rakhmadi.avia...@gmail.com
>>> Sent:Wed, 20 Jun 2012 12:17:44 +0530
>>> To: iagi-net@iagi.or.id
>>> Subject: Re: [iagi-net-l] Shale gas news
>>>
>>> Dari awal aku memang sudah curiga, mungkin ngga ya Shale Gas
>>> Exploration, dg exitnya EM dari Poland saya kira bukan hal yg main2. Saya
>>> yg alumnus EM merasa bahwa EM tidak pernah main2 dalam research di Houston
>>> setahu saya waktu di sana ada 600an lebih PHD yg kerja di Lab yg diambil
>>> dari lulusan hampir seluruh dunia dg GPA yg mendekati 4 yg diterima artinya
>>> lulusan Top of the nudge lah
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >Untuk Indonesia, mungkin tidak semua shale punya potential jadi Shale
>>> Gas, ini yg belum di evaluasi, belum apa2 koq ujuk2 udah sekian TCF emang
>>> dari mana dan dasarnya apa?
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >Ingat RDP waktu jadi panelis di gas hydrate, acara Pertamina di
>>> Kempinski Hotel, RDP mengusulkan harus ada Pilot Project dari Zero ke Hero,
>>> artinya research yg ter-integrasi, ada G&G, ada drilling, dll krn
>>> menyangkut fracturing dimana ada usaha dari shale yg nature-nya impermeable
>>> menjadi permeable, tentu tidak mudah dan tentu perlu dedikasi yg tinggi
>>> dalam research ini.
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >Salam,
>>>
>>> >Avi NPA 06666
>>>
>>> >Nomor cantik
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>> >
>>> On Tue, Jun 19, 2012 at 4:38 PM, Fatrial Bahesti 
>>> <bahe...@gmail.com<http://ajaxprism/writemail?mode=mail_to_individual&email=bahe...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>> >
>>>
>>>  Mudah2an shale exit tidak terjadi di Indonesia, melainkan tetap exist
>>> for shale gas exploration..
>>>
>>> > ExxonMobil in Poland shale exit
>>>
>>> By Kathrine Schmidt and news wires
>>>
>>>  18 June 2012 18:00 GMT
>>>  *Following two disappointing test wells in January, ExxonMobil has
>>> made the decision to call off further exploration there, a spokesman said
>>> Monday. *
>>>
>>> "There have been no demonstrated sustained commercial hydrocarbon flow
>>> rates in our two wells in the Lublin and Podlasie basins," ExxonMobil
>>> spokesman Patrick McGinn told Upstream in an email.
>>>
>>> "We do not have additional drilling plans in Poland."
>>>
>>> The supermajor's chief executive Rex Tillerson in March alluded to some
>>> of the technical challenges of drilling in rock formations that had
>>> initially held high hopes for unconventional production.
>>>
>>> The US Energy Information Administration has pegged Poland as having
>>> among the largest shale reserves in Europe.
>>>
>>> Nonetheless, ExxonMobil chief executive Rex Tillerson spoke to the
>>> technical difficulties there in a New York meeting with analysts in March.
>>>
>>> “Some of the shales don’t respond as well to hydraulic fracturing,” the
>>> news wire quoted Tillerson as saying during a meeting with reporters after
>>> his presentation to analysts. “It’s going to take research and time in the
>>> lab to understand that.”
>>>
>>> Reuters said that a government report in March slashed estimates of
>>> Poland's shale gas reserves to 346 billion to 768 billion cubic meters, or
>>> about one-tenth of previous estimates, denting hopes for an energy source
>>> that could play a key role in weaning Europe off Russian gas.
>>>
>>> Poland has granted 112 shale exploration licences to ExxonMobil, Chevron
>>> and other firms, even as some countries, including France and Bulgaria,
>>> have banned shale exploration pending further environmental studies.
>>>
>>> The Poles are keen to wean themselves off their heavy reliance on coal
>>> and imported Russian gas, partly due to environmental commitments they face
>>> as a European Union member nation.
>>>
>>> "ExxonMobil realised that commercial extraction was not possible with
>>> currently available technology. This is a general problem in Poland that
>>> shale rocks are too tight to allow extraction," an industry source told the
>>> news wire, asking not to be identified.
>>>
>>> Abundant shale gas production in Poland poses a potential threat to
>>> Russia's supremacy in Europe, where it supplies a quarter of the gas used
>>> in the EU.
>>>
>>> Yet Russian gas export monopoly Gazprom has repeatedly played down the
>>> threat and on Monday Sergei Komlev, head of contract structuring and price
>>> formation at Gazprom Export, told a conference in London that Polish gas
>>> would struggle to achieve the low prices of US shale rivals.
>>>
>>> "In Poland the price for shale gas will be above $15 per million British
>>> thermal units, over three times than in the US where prices will rise to
>>> $5-10 (from a current $2.50) once they export gas," Komlev said.
>>>
>>> Last Wednesday, the government abruptly called off a presentation of a
>>> legal framework for the development of shale gas resources, disappointing
>>> industry players eager for more clarity before committing further to
>>> investing in the sector.
>>>
>>> "If this draft was published and ExxonMobil later declared it was
>>> leaving the country, it would most likely have been a disaster in terms of
>>> the country's image," said Piotr Spaczynski, partner at law firm
>>> Spaczynski, Szczepaniak & Wspolnicy, which advises foreign oil companies
>>> investing in Polish shale.
>>>
>>> The government now plans to unveil the draft law by the end of the
>>> month, and has said it will cover exploration and extraction of oil and gas
>>> from both conventional and unconventional sources, including taxation,
>>> licensing and environmental issues.
>>>
>>> "If I were the government, I would scrap all drafts and let companies
>>> work, or publish a draft supporting exploration and not one directed at
>>> excessive taxation," Spaczynski said.
>>>
>>> Poland had high hopes for shale after a study by the US Energy
>>> Information Association in 2011 estimated Polish reserves at 5.3 trillion
>>> cubic metres, enough to cover domestic demand for some 300 years.
>>>
>>> The government's study in March slashed estimates for recoverable shale
>>> gas reserves at 346 to 768 billion cubic metres.
>>>
>>> Despite ExxonMobil, the world's most valuable energy company, to
>>> deciding to scrap exploration, other firms said they remained committed.
>>>
>>> "(Our company) continues to remain extremely optimistic about the
>>> outlook for Polish shale gas," said John Buggenhaggen, exploration director
>>> at UK-listed San Leon Energy.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> >
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