Understood. Thank you so much. Masato
On 2014/10/17 9:56, "Andrew Dul" <[email protected]> wrote: >Masato, > >You are correct the current plan is for each region to determine their >own initial process. The global process did become clearer yesterday >with the proposed crisp team. > >Andrew > >On 10/16/2014 11:19 PM, Masato Yamanishi wrote: >> Andrew, >> >> I agree that the process is also important as the proposal itself, but >> each community can choose their own development process, >> and it should be respected if it complies with the requirements from >>USG. >> That is my point. Am I wrong? >> >> Regards, >> Masato Yamanishi >> >> >> >> On 2014/10/16 13:14, "Andrew Dul" <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Paul, >>> >>> You will note I only asked for clarification about how APNIC was >>> conducting its part of this process, I did not comment on the substance >>> of the proposal itself. (While I am not directly affiliated with an >>> organization in the apnic region today, I have been in the past and as >>> far as I know this list is open to all who want to participate.) >>> >>> While I believe we disagree on having the regional discussions rather >>> than just moving to a global discussion. I realize that is the >>> direction we are now headed. >>> >>> As was noted again in the ICG meeting today the timeline is short and >>> the sooner all the regions have their work, the sooner the global >>> submission to the ICG can be worked on. It was also noted today the >>> process for creating the submission is also just as important as the >>> submission itself. >>> >>> Thanks, >>> Andrew >>> >>> On 10/16/2014 11:38 AM, Paul Wilson wrote: >>>> Hello Andrew, >>>> >>>> First, let’s note that the discussion is ongoing, in the APNIC region >>>> and elsewhere. With 3 more RIR meetings coming up soon, I am sure >>>>that >>>> the APNIC community will be watching what happens in those >>>>discussions. >>>> >>>> As specific proposals are raised in other meetings, I’m sure that we >>>> will be watching whether those are consistent with or inconsistent >>>>with >>>> the straw man that was discussed in Brisbane, and discussions will >>>>ensue >>>> accordingly. >>>> >>>> So the process is one of continuing discussion, and could include >>>> further proposals which could come from anyone in the community. >>>>APNIC >>>> secretariat staff will attempt to facilitate this discussion as >>>>needed. >>>> >>>> I should also note that the purpose of the ianaxfer@apnic list is for >>>> regional discussions, not for global discussions. So I hope that we >>>> will able to focus on the development of the APNIC position, rather >>>>than >>>> trying to capture all voices here, which could become rather >>>> overwhelming for those who are trying to track the APNIC discussion in >>>> particular. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>_______________________________________________________________________ >>>>_ >>>> Paul Wilson, Director-General, APNIC >>>><[email protected]> >>>> http://www.apnic.net +61 7 3858 >>>>3100 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On 17 Oct 2014, at 3:04 am, Andrew Dul <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 10/16/2014 9:35 AM, MAEMURA Akinori wrote: >>>>>> Hi Richard, >>>>>> >>>>>> (2014/10/17 0:38), Richard Hill wrote: >>>>>>> Please see below. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks and best, >>>>>>> Richard >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>>>> From: MAEMURA Akinori [mailto:[email protected]] >>>>>>>> Sent: mercredi, 15. octobre 2014 19:42 >>>>>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected] >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [IANAxfer@apnic] APNIC IANA Process - Status Update >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Dear Acharya, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> | > I'm also curious to know whether the APNIC staff proposal >>>>>>>> presented during >>>>>>>> | > APNIC-38 has been accepted as the final proposal? I gather >>>>>>>>from >>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>> | > transcripts that the APNIC staff proposal was met with >>>>>>>> silence during the >>>>>>>> | > conference - and that this silence was taken to be as full >>>>>>>> consensus. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Masato as the Moderator, at the last part of the session, >>>>>>>> took good care to study the sentiment of the floor, >>>>>>>> which doesn't appear on the script. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> It was sufficient time to wait for any last minute objection, >>>>>>>> and quite natural to be regarded as a consensus, in my sense. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> "full consensus" sounds something hard, and might be not >>>>>>>> the case for this, but it is my understanding that we have >>>>>>>> obtained sufficient consensus for that simple proposal, >>>>>>>> with which we can move it forward. >>>>>>> Does this mean that that proposal has been approved? What about >>>>>>>the >>>>>>> comments that wre made on this mailing, in particular: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>http://mailman.apnic.net/mailing-lists/ianaxfer/archive/2014/09/msg0 >>>>>>>00 >>>>>>> 03.html >>>>>> It doesn't mean the proposal was approved as the final version. >>>>>> But I think it is enough to move forward for further consideration. >>>>>> >>>>>> Your message referred above is appreciated as raised an important >>>>>> point. >>>>>> Again, the discussion in Brisbane is in the early stage, I am happy >>>>>>we >>>>>> were successful to get the support for the simple principle with >>>>>>which >>>>>> we can go ahead, and many details are to be discussed. >>>>>> >>>>>> As we don't have much time, we should expedite the discussion. >>>>>> >>>>> What process is APNIC going to follow? How will the comments both >>>>>from >>>>> the in-person meeting and the mailing list be taken into account? >>>>>Who >>>>> is going to update the draft to be inclusive of those comments? When >>>>> is >>>>> the next draft going to be published? >>>>> >>>>> Andrew >>>>> _______________________________________________ >>>>> IANAxfer mailing list >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> IANAxfer mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer >> > _______________________________________________ IANAxfer mailing list [email protected] http://mailman.apnic.net/mailman/listinfo/ianaxfer
