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I tried the following JCL ~ //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 ~ //DD1 DD DSN=NULLFILE, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)), ~ // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120 ~ //DD2 DD DUMMY, ~ // UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)), ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120 ~ //DD3 DD DSN=ADCDMST.NULLFILE, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // BLKSIZE=3121, ~ // REFDD=*.DD1 ~ //DD4 DD DSN=ADCDMST.DUMMY, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // BLKSIZE=3121, ~ // REFDD=*.DD2 The result was two identically defined datasets: LRECL=80, BLKSIZE=3121, with 1 Cylinder primary and secondary size. Then I tried ~ //STEP1 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 ~ //DD1 DD DSN=NULLFILE, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)), ~ // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120 ~ //DD2 DD DUMMY, ~ // UNIT=SYSALLDA,SPACE=(CYL,(1,1)), ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // RECFM=FB,LRECL=80,BLKSIZE=3120 ~ //STEP2 EXEC PGM=IEFBR14 ~ //DD3 DD DSN=ADCDMST.NULLFILE, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // BLKSIZE=3121, ~ // REFDD=*.STEP1.DD1 ~ //DD4 DD DSN=ADCDMST.DUMMY, ~ // DISP=(NEW,CATLG), ~ // BLKSIZE=3121, ~ // REFDD=*.STEP1.DD2 Same result as before. IOW, the DCB information, and the space information was retained for both DUMMY and DSN=NULLFILE. What I would like to know is: Where is the difference between DSN=NULLFILE and DUMMY which Mr. Gilmore asserts (assumes?) ? - -- ~ With kind Regards |\ _,,,---,,_ ~ ZZZzz /,`.-'`' -. ;-;;, ~ Volker Bandke |,4- ) )-,_. ,\ ( `'-' ~ (BSP GmbH) '---''(_/--' `-'\_) ~ A horse! A horse! My kingdom for a horse! -- Wm. Shakespeare, "Henry VI" ~ (Another Wisdom from my fortune cookie jar) -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.0 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Thunderbird - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFCmcPVHm2sbKEAXTARAhygAJ91c3fXprbuuj/+StsHqb8ltTUDIgCgwjCb pYPi14q2KQJXRbv+vQ3aVrM= =gmgs -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html