Come on Mark, you made a blanket statement about zAAP's and performance and I 
disagreed. Now you're coming back with specifics which I'm not going to/can't 
argue. I'm just stating I've been in situations where I personally believe that 
a zAAP would have been benificial over a GP CP from a performance perspective.
 
So can we call this a *it depends on the environment* at this point. 
 
Thanks for the links.

--- On Wed, 2/3/10, Mark Zelden <[email protected]> wrote:


From: Mark Zelden <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: IBM countersues Neon over zPrime accelerator
To: [email protected]
Date: Wednesday, February 3, 2010, 9:04 PM


On Wed, 3 Feb 2010 12:30:21 -0800, Patrick Falcone
<[email protected]> wrote:

>That's fine, I don't agree. Thanks for checking for the documentation. 

You don't agree with what?  That having 10 GPs has less overhead than
5 GPs and 5 zAAPs and can service the same workload just as well or
better (since there will be less overhead)?

> 
>I would have killed for a zAAP when we tried to go WAS V5 years ago. I
would not have taken a GP either since the startup of the cell group dimmed
the lights and having a GP, that was knee-capped, would have been a
disadvantage over having a fully blown zAAP engine to support this workload.
> 

I didn't mention the caveat of a knee-capped engine,  but that isn't an 
apples to apples comparison.    Of course you are better off with a full 
speed specialty engine compared to a knee-capped GP if you can
utilize the specialty engine.  

>We had the estimation tool when it was a zap and the numbers came out in
the log and showed the amount of java eligible work but I do not remember
seeing switch rate information.
> 

I still had this old link to the tool:
http://www6.software.ibm.com/dl/zosjava2/zosjava2-p

Which redirected me here:
https://www14.software.ibm.com/webapp/iwm/web/preLogin.do?source=zosjava2

And also this techdoc that replaced WP100431:
http://www-03.ibm.com/support/techdocs/atsmastr.nsf/WebIndex/PRS2840

I thought it was the excel workbook in that techdoc that showed the 
switch rate.  But I could be remembering slides I saw at a SHARE presentation.

Mark
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