On 6 March 2010 20:40, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.)
<shmuel+ibm-m...@patriot.net> wrote:
>
>  on 03/05/2010 at 04:24 PM, Ted MacNEIL <eamacn...@yahoo.ca> said:
>
> >Outside of IBM, I've only met two people with VM and MVS skills. This is
> >in the Greater Toronto Area, over the last 30 years. To me, that's
> >rare.
>
> Very well; I retract my original response. Instead, I'll state that it's
> not at all rare outside of the Greater Toronto Metropolitan Area. I'm not,
> however, ruling out the possibility that there are lots of people in
> toronto with both skill sets that you simply haven't met.

Ted, you're full of it. I don't believe we've ever met, but I am one
Toronto person with VM and MVS skills both going back 30+ years, and
both current today. Certainly the number of large MVS shops running
under VM has dropped, but they still exist. Back in the 1980s, at the
Canada VM Users Group (CVMUG) meetings, about half the attendees were
large MVS/VM shops, and the other half were smaller VSE/VM
installations. (And somewhere around that time the VM-only shops
appeared, running PROFS and related office automation and "Information
Centre" stuff.)

In any case, there were lots of people at these meetings, and of
course at SHARE and on VMSHARE, with strong skills in both OSs, and in
particular in running MVS under VM.

Tony H.

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