The problem IMHO is new management and accountants The new management has cut their teeth on the server world for example we had a deputy cio hire in, we were talking about the mainframe one day and I explained to him how we ran cics(explained it) a db, batch, users(developing cobol), etc and he was amazed. They are used to having 1 box runing a db, one running a customer interface, one....you see where I am going. The you have the accountant seeing the charge for the mainframe and software, but when they look at the sever side they dont seem to add all the figures to the bottom line. Plus when you outsource look at all the people removed form the payroll looks good until things turn to kaka Just my $.02 mace
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