Put ICCF on z/OS. Put everything on z/OS. Those who loathe ICCF can use a different editor. Those who love it can use it. It's still a free country.
Bill Fairchild Rocket Software -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Mark Pace Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:48 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd John, you do NOT want ICCF on z/OS. ICCF, IMHO, one of the worst editors ever. On Fri, Oct 8, 2010 at 11:39 AM, McKown, John <john.mck...@healthmarkets.com > wrote: > > -----Original Message----- > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > > [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Larry Macioce > > Sent: Friday, October 08, 2010 10:24 AM > > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > > Subject: When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd > > > > A colleague and I were talking as we feel the powers to be > > are looking > > at "options other than the mainframe". The talk went to > > dollars and cents I > > stated the price of a z box has dropped big(for our size > > shop) but the cost of > > purchasing dasd is still high along with maint. > > His question was why can't mvs use scsi or san dasd, VSE and VM can. > > We looked around the web could find nothing on it. > > Thoughts?? > > thanks > > Mace > > FlexCUB. But it only supports Escon, not Ficon. It emulates 3390 on SAN / > PC type disk. > > I think part of the problem is with the support for legacy PDS and files > with "hardware keys". Searching a PDS directory for a member is a very > simple CCW chain. And is used a lot in IPL and NIP. So the first thing that > would need to be done is to have IPL and NIP be able to support PDSE. Or, > even better, something which has "members" but is superior to PDSE. I don't > know why z/OS cannot use the CMS file system. It works, as you said, for > z/VM. Or use whatever z/VSE uses for its libraries. I'm not z/VSE literate. > And then there is the VTOC. It also has hardware keys. Now I'm curious how > z/VSE supports FBA disks. Time to go look at some books. > > -- > John McKown > Systems Engineer IV > IT > > Administrative Services Group > > HealthMarkets(r) > > 9151 Boulevard 26 * N. Richland Hills * TX 76010 > (817) 255-3225 phone * (817)-691-6183 cell > john.mck...@healthmarkets.com * www.HealthMarkets.com > > Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain confidential or > proprietary information. If you are not the intended recipient, please > contact the sender by reply e-mail and destroy all copies of the original > message. HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and > issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake > Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of > TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > -- Mark D Pace Senior Systems Engineer Mainline Information Systems ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
