Mike,

To be more precise, you have to pay for or configure the multi-path support
on the Operating System. I think TRU64 is the only UNIX platform that does
it automatically, probably because of its VAX heritage.

Ron

> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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> Ron Hawkins
> Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 2:49 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
> 
> Mike,
> 
> That's because you have to pay for or configure multi-path support for
SCSI
> attached drives. Been that way since before Fibre Channel.
> 
> I wouldn't blame the IBM hardware for that - it supports multi-path access
> just fine.
> 
> Ron
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of
> > Mike Schwab
> > Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 2010 1:28 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] When will MVS be able to use cheap dasd
> >
> > We have a ESS F20 box bought about 1999.  We have had some repeated
> > NVS failures on it, when the mainframe was configured to block the
> > failing cluster, it continued to work.  We moved off of it and
> > configured it for open systems.  AIX boxes with 1 FC card.  When it
> > went down, the AIX box was down too.  Not configured to access the
> > same disk via multiple pathways.
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 13, 2010 at 1:12 PM, R.S. <r.skoru...@bremultibank.com.pl>
> wrote:
> > > W dniu 2010-10-13 03:05, Ron Hawkins pisze:
> > > [...]
> > >
> > >> The difference between the cost of midrange and enterprise storage
has
> > >> little to do with end-to-end data protection, because it's all SCSI,
> SAS
> > >> and
> > >> SATA once your write leaves the FICON channel on Enterprise. It has
> much
> > >> more to do with survivability, availability, scalability, and
software
> > >> options or lack thereof on midrange storage
> > >>
> > >> The best illustration of this were the last set of ratings that the
now
> > >> defunct RAID Advisory Board issued, where most Enterprise Class
> > >> controllers
> > >> were classified as Disaster Tolerant Disk Subsystems, and midrange
was
> > >> typically classified as Fault Tolerant Disk Subsystems.
> > >>
> > >> Typically midrange storage will stay connected and keep running if a
> > >> component fails, but FRU replacements, upgrades and suchlike are
likely
> to
> > >> be disruptive - they're not five nines in all situations and that's
why
> > >> they
> > >> are cheaper.
> > >
> > > The original question was: Why *THE SAME* dasd box costs less when
it's
> sold
> > > for FBA (distributed) systems, and costs more when it's CKD. Same
> hardware,
> > > usually comparable set of software features.
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