> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Paul Gilmartin > Sent: Saturday 12 November 2005 07:31 > > In a recent note, Rob Wunderlich said: > > > Date: Fri, 11 Nov 2005 10:02:04 -0600 > > > > On Thu, 10 Nov 2005 09:41:54 -0500, David Andrews <[log in to unmask]> > > wrote: > > > > >> z/OS is an awesome platform, but we really need as a group to get > > >> over this > > >> silly anti-Windows thing. > > > > > >Sorry, but um, no. > > > > > >We need to accommodate our Windows customers, sure -- they've been > > >taken in and there's little we can do about THAT. But we don't have > > >to further OUR OWN use of an unstable, inferior and insecure platform. > > > > I think the strongest shops are those that embrace both platforms. > > There are strengths in both, and applications for both. The decision > > to host an application on a particular platform is an "it depends" > > business decision that varies from shop to shop. > > > I celebrate diversity. But what's dismaying here is the > strict dyadic character of the language. It should be not > "both", but "all"; there are more than two platforms available.
And z/OS isn't the only IBM mainframe operating system, and IBM isn't the only mainframe player either (although it probably is in the high 90s percentile of installed base). Unisys, Groupe Bull, Fujitsu Hitachi and Fujitsu-Siemens have mainframe-class hardware and OSes, too. HP might be included, depending on how you consider the soon-to-be-gone HP3000/MPE and the former DEC hardware/OpenVMS. (Paul, does STK ^W Sun support its products with those other boxes?) Because this list concentrates mostly on z/OS (despite its name), we tend to have a slightly narrower vision of the computing world. There's nothing wrong with that. Our vision is wider, though, than the vision one finds on Windows or *n*x discussion lists. Most of those folks don't have a clue that there's a better world out there for mission-critical, high-volume data processing environments. We as a list acknowledge those other platforms, although our personal opinions vary wildly across the spectrum. An offhand comment - a good friend of mine just interviewed with a company that provides paid support and implementation of PostgreSQL-based systems (an open source database). During the interview, a comment was made about porting to enterprise systems, in the context of IBM mainframes. (Whether this means z/Linux or z/OS USS (not to be confused with VTAM USS :-P ) was not clear.) So maybe our message is slowly getting out there to the folks with the blinders. Now if "we" can just make Java run better on z/Architecture. :-D Later, Ray -- M. Ray Mullins Roseville, CA, USA http://www.catherdersoftware.com/ http://www.mrmullins.big-bear-city.ca.us/ http://www.the-bus-stops-here.org/ German is essentially a form of assembly language consisting entirely of far calls heavily accented with throaty guttural sounds. --ilvi ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
