Thanks for the feedback. Once again, I am solving a "problem" that doesn't 
really exist other than in my own mind. 

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List 
> [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Brian Westerman
> Sent: Tuesday, October 26, 2010 1:23 AM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: Design question for a UNIX facility similar to 
> TSO SEND command
> 
> Sorry John,
> 
> I didn't see you original request.  We ran into the same type 
> of issues when
> deveoping SyzMAIL that send the job end condition codes (max 
> and/or all of
> them , plus statistics from all of the steps) to the notify 
> "UserID".  We
> wanted to expand that function to provide more than just the "highest
> condition code" and get it to other subsystems (CICS, IMS, Etc.) and
> platforms and we ended up, after a lot of testing and 
> customer feedback,
> picking standard EMAIL as the delivery method, mostly because of the
> perceived nuisance factor that the people who didn't already 
> get any form of
> the notify message, didn't want to get it if it had to be 
> like the TSO one
> and be received "uncontrolled".  
> 
> We looked into sending to the -nix users directly since we 
> can build the
> table any way we wanted, but we found that they also were not 
> interested in
> getting the same type of interruption that TSO users have 
> lived with for a
> long long time.  In fact, we have found since the introduction, that a
> feature which we thought would probably never be used, the ability to
> redirect and NOT send the notification directly to the TSO 
> UserID is one of
> the big selling points of the software.  It allows the user 
> (or site) to
> choose to only send the email and redirect the TSO send to 
> either a log file
> or kill it completely.  
> 
> Once you provide the ability to send the message(s) to a 
> group of interested
> parties, and/or a catch-all email entity that gathers the 
> step and ending
> condition codes for every job the ends like SyzMAIL does, the 
> whole reason
> for the interruption caused by the send goes away.  
> 
> Basically it turns out that apparently given the choice, the 
> TSO user would
> rather not get the interruption caused by the message either. 
>  I can't tell
> you how many times I have received one myself and hit enter 
> automatically
> before I realized what the message said.  For us it's fairly 
> easy to go look
> at syslog and see it again, or look at the job, but I had 
> never considered
> how difficult that function was for a average user until we 
> started to get
> the notes from users who were actually thanking us for the 
> product.  That
> was a real strange happening, normally our client support 
> expects problem
> reports, which thankfully are VERY infrequent, and the 
> positive comments
> coming in randomly were completely unexpected.
> 
> Brian
> 
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