I used 2741 with TSO on SVS. Line mode only. ISPF did not exist. Its predecessor (SPF/PDF) required 3270. All working from TSO READY. Try the TSO EDIT command from ready some time. Make you like vi.
Dennis Roach GHG Corporation Lockheed Martin Mission Services Facilities Design and Operations Contract Strategic Technical Engineering NASA/JSC Address: 2100 Space Park Drive LM-15-4BH Houston, Texas 77058 Mail: P.O. Box 58487 Mail Code H4C Houston, Texas 77258-8487 Phone: Voice: (281)336-5027 Cell: (713)591-1059 Fax: (281)336-5410 E-Mail: [email protected] All opinions expressed by me are mine and may not agree with my employer or any person, company, or thing, living or dead, on or near this or any other planet, moon, asteroid, or other spatial object, natural or manufactured, since the beginning of time. -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Vernooij, CP - SPLXM Sent: Friday, November 05, 2010 10:41 AM To: [email protected] Subject: EXTERNAL: Re: Why are TSO IDs limited to 7 characters "McKown, John" <[email protected]> wrote in message news:<[email protected]>. .. > In my on-going insanity, I have been trying to comtemplate a method whereby a UNIX shell user, coming in via Telnet or SSH, could run a complete TSO environment, including "full screen" applications such as ISPF. This would bypass the TSO started task entirely and the TSO/VTAM 3270 stuff. > > IBM has addressed running ISPF in a sysplex where the user is logged on to TSO on multiple z/OS images concurrently using the same RACF id. IBM's current support for TSO in UNIX appears to be based on how they support TSO in batch, replacing SYSTSIN and SYSTSPRT with a pipe back to the shell command. I don't think this method sets up all the TSO control blocks needed for a "true" TSO environment. I wonder how TSO worked back in the days of the 2741 keyboard/printer. I think TSO supported that device back in MVT. > > -- I am quite convinced TSO was from a later period, after MVT and with 3270 screens. Kees. ******************************************************** For information, services and offers, please visit our web site: http://www.klm.com. This e-mail and any attachment may contain confidential and privileged material intended for the addressee only. If you are not the addressee, you are notified that no part of the e-mail or any attachment may be disclosed, copied or distributed, and that any other action related to this e-mail or attachment is strictly prohibited, and may be unlawful. If you have received this e-mail by error, please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail, and delete this message. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij NV (KLM), its subsidiaries and/or its employees shall not be liable for the incorrect or incomplete transmission of this e-mail or any attachments, nor responsible for any delay in receipt. Koninklijke Luchtvaart Maatschappij N.V. (also known as KLM Royal Dutch Airlines) is registered in Amstelveen, The Netherlands, with registered number 33014286 ******************************************************** ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
