Steve,

Actually it is sort of disappointing that some of the practices that made
this stuff bullet proof are being pigeon holed as "legacy systems" and
removed from the process.

A bit like throwing the baby out with the bath water.

Ron

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> Stephen Mednick
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> Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] I would love to know what went wrong at NAB
> 
> Nostalgia, don't you just love it.
> 
> 
> Stephen Mednick
> Computer Supervisory Services
> Sydney, Australia
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> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
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> Of Ron Hawkins
> Sent: Wednesday, 1 December 2010 7:12 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Re: I would love to know what went wrong at NAB
> 
> Chris,
> 
> If I remember rightly it was a bug in IMS 2.2 or 2.3. If I remember
> correctly NAB (where I worked at the time) had found the bug in stress and
> regression testing (TPNS for those that remember it) and were waiting for
> the fix that hit Westpac. Funny how times have changed.
> 
> Ron
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:ibm-m...@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf Of
> > Chris Craddock
> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 8:56 PM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: [IBM-MAIN] I would love to know what went wrong at NAB
> >
> > On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 10:39 PM, Chase, John <jch...@ussco.com> wrote:
> >
> > > > -----Original Message-----
> > > > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List On Behalf Of Shane
> > > >
> > > > As if.
> > > > Can't you just imagine a major Aussie Bank doing that. You were at
> > > Bank
> > > > of NSW when they had the IMS fiasco Steve - how much info on that
> > > > got out ? (via Bank press releases I mean :-)
> > >
> > > Yeh....  It's probably a near-universal trait that "dirty laundry"
> > > is "washed" discreetly....  :-)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > This would be one of those rare cases where the story was big enough
> > that there wasn't a lot of room for discrete laundering. It was
> > actually
> Westpac
> > by then (btw) and I was there too. That "event" wasn't a single
> > outage,
> but
> > rather a series of them wound around failed restart/recovery
> > processing
> that
> > eventually took several days to fully recover from. There wasn't any
> > news coverage at first, but the scale of the problem had made the
> > press by the second day. Once it had there was plenty of blame
> > storming to go around. I don't recall whether the bank actually issued
> > press releases but their
> point
> > of view certainly did make it into the press coverage.
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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