Rob,

After I sent you the reply, I realized that there's more. Here's the rest:

DFHZC3424 E 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Session failure. Session
terminated immediately.  ((1) Module name: DFHZNSP)
NQNAME   E0AD,CSNE,14:40:06,FLANWR41 TELNE0AD

DFHZC3437 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Node TELNE0AD action
taken:  CLSDST ABTASK ABSEND ABRECV SIMLOGON ((1) Module name: DFHZNAC)

DFHSN1200 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT Signoff at netname TELNE0AD by user
POLETIC is complete. 265 transactions entered with 2 errors.

DFHZC3462 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Node TELNE0AD session
terminated.  ((2) Module name: DFHZCLS) NQNAME   E0AD,CSNE,14:40:06,FLANWR41
TELNE0AD
DFHZC2405 E 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Node TELNE0AD not
activated.  VTAM RETURN CODE 1000 ((6) Module name: DFHZSYX)

DFHZC3437 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Node TELNE0AD action
taken: NOCREATE CLSDST ABTASK ABSEND ABRECV ((1) Module name: DFHZNAC)

DFHZC3462 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT E0AD CSNE Node TELNE0AD session
terminated.  ((2) Module name: DFHZCLS) NQNAME   E0AD,CSNE,14:40:06,FLANWR41
TELNE0AD
DFHZC5966 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT DELETE started for TERMINAL (
 E0AD) (Module name: DFHBSTZ).
DFHZC6966 I 02/18/2011 14:40:06 CICSPRDT Autoinstall delete for terminal
E0AD with netname TELNE0AD was successful.

Sorry for missing those the first time...
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*
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On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 3:01 PM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com> wrote:

> George,
>
> I had one more thought.  Can you post the CICS error message associated
> with
> the terminal?
>
> Thanks,
> Rob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> Behalf
> Of George Rodriguez
> Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 2:52 PM
> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> Subject: Fwd: Help with ADJSSCP
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> Rob could not help.
> *
> *
> *George Rodriguez*
> *Specialist II - IT Solutions*
> *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652*
> *(561) 357-7652 (office)*
> *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)*
> *School District of Palm Beach County*
> *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.*
> *Room B-332*
> *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869*
> *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Six Consecutive Years*
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: George Rodriguez <george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org>
> Date: Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:45 PM
> Subject: Re: Help with ADJSSCP
> To: Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com>
>
>
> Here you go:
>
> DFHZC6935 I 02/18/2011 08:24:06 CICSPRDT Autoinstall for terminal E0AD with
> netname TELNE0AD                      using model or template DFHLU2E2
> successful.
>
> and when I looked at the TYPETERM(DFHLU2E2), this is that parm it has:
>
> CReatesess     : No
>
> Thanks. . .
> *
> *
> *George Rodriguez*
> *Specialist II - IT Solutions*
> *Application Support / Quality Assurance* *PX - 47652*
> *(561) 357-7652 (office)*
> *(561) 707-3496 (mobile)*
> *School District of Palm Beach County*
> *3348 Forest Hill Blvd.*
> *Room B-332*
> *West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869*
> *Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Six Consecutive Years*
>
>
>
> On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > George,
> >
> > Did you find the DFHZC6935I  that indicates what TYPETERM was used
> > during the install of the terminal TELNE0AD?  I would not necessarily
> > trust the GROUP definitions.  The message is a better indicator of what
> is
> happening.
> >
> > Rob
> >
> > From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 1:27 PM
> > To: Rob Schramm
> > Subject: Re: Help with ADJSSCP
> >
> > From what I see in the CICS group definition, DFHTERM and DFHTYPE,
> > CREATESESS is set to NO. When I look at terminals in the TOR, this is
> > how it
> > looks:
> >
> > Ter(E0AD)           Pri( 000 ) Pag Ins Ati Tti Loc
> >    Net(TELNE0AD) Acq                            Nqn(FLANWR41.TELNE0AD)
> >
> > and in the CICS that's designated as the AOR, this is how it looks:
> >
> > Ter(E0AD)           Pri( 000 ) Pag Ins Ati Tti Rte
> >    Net(TELNE0AD)                Rem(CITR)
> >
> > Thanks for the help...
> >
> > George Rodriguez
> > Specialist II - IT Solutions
> > Application Support / Quality Assurance PX - 47652
> > (561) 357-7652 (office)
> > (561) 707-3496 (mobile)
> > School District of Palm Beach County
> > 3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
> > Room B-332
> > West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869
> > Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Six Consecutive Years
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 12:19 PM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Did you confirm that you have CREATESESS(YES) on the TYPETERM definition
> > that was used to install the terminal?
> >
> > From: George Rodriguez [mailto:george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org]
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 11:55 AM
> > To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
> > Cc: Rob Schramm
> > Subject: Re: Help with ADJSSCP
> >
> > Rob,
> >
> > So if I remove the option CREATESESS(YES) from the TYPETERM definition,
> > would that resolve my problem?
> >
> >
> > George Rodriguez
> > Specialist II - IT Solutions
> > Application Support / Quality Assurance
> > PX - 47652
> > (561) 357-7652 (office)
> > (561) 707-3496 (mobile)
> > School District of Palm Beach County
> > 3348 Forest Hill Blvd.
> > Room B-332
> > West Palm Beach, FL. 33406-5869
> > Florida's Only A-Rated Urban District For Six Consecutive Years
> >
> > On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 11:40 AM, Rob Schramm <rob.schr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > Chris,
> >
> > I think I can help.  I ran across a similar issue a while ago.  CICS is
> > configured to reestablish a connection when it "sees" a abnormally
> > terminated session such as the user closing a TN3270 window.  The
> behavior
> > is governed by CICS settings.  I used to work with a certain awesome
> > CommServ/CICS guy that indicated that the trouble is most likely the
> > CREATESESS(YES) on the TYPETERM definition.  When the terminal is
> > autoinstalled, CICS will issue a message indicating what TYPETERM was
> used.
> > Check the MSGUSR message DFHZC6935I for the details.  If the TYPETERM has
> > CREATESESS(YES) specified, then CICS will attempt to reestablish the
> > connection after the initial auto-install of the terminal has been done.
> > Normally, CREATESESS(YES) is used for things like printers to allow CICS
> to
> > initiate the session.  Of course  VTAM is just doing what is normal and
> > trying to be helpful but to no avail.. since no one is on the other side
> > anymore.
> >
> > There is also the possibility of a customized Node Error Program.  I am
> > supplying a link for why a Node Error Program might be used.
> >
> >
>
> http://publib.boulder.ibm.com/infocenter/cicsts/v3r1/index.jsp?topic=/com.ib
> > m.cics.ts31.doc/dfha3/dfha357.htm
> >
> > Rob Schramm
> > And special thanks to a Mr. Eades
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On
> > Behalf
> > Of Chris Mason
> > Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:29 AM
> > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
> > Subject: Re: Help with ADJSSCP
> >
> > George
> >
> > I know I have a response outstanding regarding your "keep-alive" problem,
> > but I just spotted this. I seem to be the only list contributor dealing
> > with
> > VTAM matters so I don't expect I'm taking the pleasure away from anyone
> > else
> > by trying to deal with it immediately - although I'd be delighted to know
> > that I was - and all are invited to try to work out what I may be meaning
> > with that!
> >
> > -
> >
> > Actually the first point that comes to mind is why are you asking this
> > question because anyone who has been through usual VTAM subarea
> networking
> > education and worked with it should know all about the famous 087D sense
> > code, its various modifiers ands and IST663I messages and what they
> imply.
> >
> > This reeks to me of a "let go" where the "suits" have decided that their
> > VTAM systems programmer was "superfluous to requirements" and has been
> > allowed to spend all his time on the golf course or supporting the
> football
> > team at away matches - or equivalent pursuits for a lady.
> >
> > -
> >
> > Now looking at the names of the LUs in this failed session setup, I see
> > that
> > the origin LU (OLU) is
> >
> > FLANWR41.CICSPRDT
> >
> > which looks like a CICS system and the destination LU (DLU) is one of
> your
> > TN3270 APPL statements (for external users),
> >
> > FLANWR41.TELNE21E
> >
> > This implies that CICS is trying to initiate a session with the TN3270
> APPL
> > statement which is *not* usual. Usually, it is the TN3270 APPL statement
> > which is trying to initiate a session with CICS.
> >
> > Note the message
> >
> > IST264I  REQUIRED ADJSSCP TABLE          UNDEFINED
> >
> > which, in conjunction with the IST663I message with sense code 087D0002,
> is
> > saying that, the SSCP (VTAM) has a session setup request from an OLU
> > destined for a DLU which can't be satisfied in the "home" domain -
> because
> > the required DLU is not defined - or is inactive. Thus it needs to send
> the
> > session setup request to other, "away", SSCPs (also known in this context
> > as
> > CDRMs) (VTAMs) and, to do this, it sends the request sequentially
> following
> > the order defined by the "adjacent SSCP" table defined for the DLU,
> which,
> > if it doesn't already exist, can be a default list for the "home"
> network,
> > as defined by the "network identifier" (NETID) - assuming we don't have
> an
> > SNI configuration, which in this case we don't since the NETIDs are the
> > same.
> >
> > However, you don't have a suitable "home" network adjacent SSCP table
> > available maybe because you haven't actually got any other, "away",
> systems
> > running VTAM connected with subarea links to your "home" system which can
> > be
> > used to build a dynamic adjacent SSCP list under control of the DYNASSCP
> > start option specified as DYNASSCP=YES, the default.
> >
> > All of which is consistent with the messages you see - assuming two
> things:
> >
> > 1. TELNE21E is not active
> > 2. You have specified, perhaps by default, the DUPDEFS start option as
> > DUPDEFS=APPL or DUPDEFS=ALL, the default.
> >
> > I had a look at the explanation of the DUPDEFS start option and there is
> a
> > bit of a confusing comment under DUPDEFS=APPL. I think this means that
> what
> > I have described is likely to be valid only because you have defined your
> > TN3270 APPL statements as a *model* APPL statement - which, because of
> your
> > other thread, still ongoing, I know is as follows:
> >
> > TN3270A  VBUILD TYPE=APPL
> > TN3270G  GROUP EAS=1
> > TELNI??? APPL
> > TELNE??? APPL
> >
> > Well, as it should be now after my previous comments!
> >
> > I think this means that the DUPDEFS start option is then irrelevant since
> > the LU name corresponding to the APPL statement is "known" only when it
> is
> > active - which leaves only 1 from above.
> >
> > Perhaps you can explain what is causing this session setup attempt,
> which,
> > as I said, looks odd and we can take it from there.
> >
> > Chris Mason
> >
> > On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 09:09:23 -0500, George Rodriguez
> > <george.rodrig...@palmbeachschools.org> wrote:
> >
> > >I've got this message on SYSLOG and I've read several IBM publications
> > >to try and understand, but none of the pubs explain how to solve a
> > >particular problem. If I understood the problem, then I can take action
> > >in resolving it. Here are the messages I get on SYSLOG:
> > >
> > >IST663I  INIT OTHER REQUEST               FAILED  , SENSE=087D0002
> > >IST664I  REAL  OLU=FLANWR41.CICSPRDT   ALIAS DLU=FLANWR41.TELNE21E
> > >IST889I  SID = D60BACEC2F856D69
> > >IST264I  REQUIRED ADJSSCP TABLE          UNDEFINED
> > >IST314I  END
> > >
> > >I've looked up the sense code (087D0002):
> > >
> > >087D      Session services path error: A session-services request cannot
> > >          be rerouted along a path of SSCP-SSCP sessions.  This
> > >          capability is required, for example, to set up a cross-network
> > >          LU-LU session.
> > >
> > >0002      An SSCP is unable to reroute a session services
> > >          request because a necessary routing table is not
> > >          available.  This means that there is no adjacent
> > >          SSCP table corresponding to the rerouting key in the
> > >          resource identifier control vector.  The receiver of
> > >          this value will, if possible, try rerouting to
> > >          another SSCP.
> > >
> > >          VTAM Information: When VTAM receives this sense code
> > >          for a session initiation, it continues searching
> > >          through the adjacent SSCP table until the
> > >          destination LU is found or routing is exhausted.
> > >
> > >I just don't how to take the information from the message and do what's
> > >needed to eliminate the problem. Can any of you great MVS ListServers
> > >help me out?
> > >
> > >Thanks in advance...
> > >
> > >*George Rodriguez*
> >
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