Of course he did. There's no flies on gil!
On 17/03/2011 8:49 PM, Martin Packer wrote:
Maybe but he understood MINE. :-)
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From:
David Crayford<dcrayf...@gmail.com>
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Date:
17/03/2011 12:43
Subject:
Re: Why is WTO so much easier to use than better methods? (Was RE: Trouble
Reading a Spanned File with an Assembler Program - Working Program)
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gil,
I think you misunderstood my point. I was talking about printf() and
where it routes it's output.
On 17/03/2011 8:24 PM, Paul Gilmartin wrote:
On Thu, 17 Mar 2011 19:31:22 +0800, David Crayford wrote:
In a non-zUnix environment stdout is SYSPRINT. So in TSO it writes to
the terminal and in batch to a SYSPRINT DD. If you
don't specify a SYSPRINT DD it will dynamically allocate a sysout data
set. I believe in CICS it writes to the log?
Not really. It's application dependent and wretchedly inconsistent.
I see:
UNIX stdout stderr
Assembler SYSPRINT SYSTERM
IEBGENER SYSUT1 SYSPRINT
Batch TMP SYSTSPRT
TSO Terminal
It's a real shame that:
o TSO didn't originally read from/write to DDNAMES rather
than inventing the idiosyncratic TGET/TPUT
o DDNAME redirection wasn't made a basic capability of
data management rather than implemented sporadically by
various applications, often by positional entries in a
second PARM.
o Rexx, which internally has separate interfaces for data
output and message output, has no provision for externally
directing them to different DDNAMEs/descriptors.
-- gil
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