I will say we mirror what Barbara has stated, but that our IOC (operations) has 
a product called IO/Concepts that we funnel console traffic thru, otherwise IOC 
and Sysprogs use the HMC excessively for IPLs, not just in emergencies.

Thanks

Ms. Terri E. Shaffer 
terri.e.shaf...@jpmchase.com
Engineer
J.P.Morgan Chase & Co.
GTI DCT ECS Core Services zSoftware Group / Emerging Technologies 
Office: # 614-213-3467
Cell: # 412-519-2592 

-----Original Message-----
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of 
Barbara Nitz
Sent: Tuesday, March 29, 2011 12:11 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Subject: Re: HMC System Console usage (one more time)

I'll stay out of 2, but 1 and certainly 3 definitely apply to us. Since our
office building is now quite a ways away from the actual hardware, us
sysprogs routinely use the HMC both for IPL and to issue some commands.
Also, we routinely swap lpars from one box to the other, meaning that 'the
consoles' need to have their appropriate 3270 pcomm session (different IP
address AFAIK) started. Until they're up, HMC is the only means of
communication from here. 

The test sysplex doesn't have a console anymore. Well, there are some
consoles defined for that, but those sessions are never open. So the only
way to IPL is the HMC. One of them happens to be right here in our office.

Regards, Barbara

>1) How many of you have used to it in an emergency as the "console of last
>resort"?

>2) How many of you have used it to recover OSA attached consoles?
>
>3) How many of you have no locally-attached consoles and use the System
>Console to IPL and get you through NIP before transitioning to SMCS consoles
>(or some other console support requiring Comm Server to be up)?

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