Hi Mark,
Initially, it was thought that the 'system stuff', syslog, SMP/e runs, assemblies, linkedits, and so on, shouldn't/couldn't be stored with the same product as customer data. However, it can be, whether that product has/uses more that one database or uses SAF or RACF for access control. Anything that can keep customer A's runs separate from c ustomer B's runs will work. Our SYSLOG access under CA-View is RACF controlled in our production environment. In our test lpar, we have a separate CA-View database for the sysprog stuff, and access to that is RACF controlled. We keep a little over three years of SYSLOG just so I can definitively see whether something really did/didn't happen the "last time we IPL'ed". It's been a little over a year since the last IPL and I like not having to try to remember the details that far back. Linda ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark Zelden" <m...@mzelden.com> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Sent: Wednesday, June 8, 2011 2:26:56 PM Subject: Re: SYSLOG saving So more of these posts have made me think. There is no reason that some of those other shops I mentioned that had more "general" products (as opposed to some that specifically manage syslog or have components that do) couldn't have used those products to store syslog. And maybe more of those shops do today than they did over the past 20 years of history I was referring to. Some reasons they may not be doing so could be: 1) Old processes using external writers storing to a GDG worked fine and were never changed to use those output management products as they were added to the system. 2) KISS. Some of those products take special access, security etc. People already knew how to access the syslog GDGs. Easy to manage with GDG limits and / or HSM. Mark -- Mark Zelden - Zelden Consulting Services - z/OS, OS/390 and MVS mailto:m...@mzelden.com Mark's MVS Utilities: http://www.mzelden.com/mvsutil.html Systems Programming expert at http://expertanswercenter.techtarget.com/ ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
