Easier for whom? I have not seen anything developed in Unix that communicates with z/OS made easier by the implementation of Unix - more complex yes, less visable yes, error messages none available, platform portable yes, but not easier. I do not find Unix commands easier than JES2 commands I do not feel that C++ is easier than COBOL I do not feel that the script provided in a previous memo on this subject easier than JCL I do not find HTML easier than BMS. I do not find JAVA easy to follow. I do not find XML easy. These new developments in Open system provide real benefits that I am open to but do not sell these changes a easier. I can not speak about Perl and REXX because I do not know PERL. I do find that there are real benefits provided in ASCII to EPICDIC conversion, portability, and advanced GUI displays. Regards Otto Schumacher HP Enterprise Services Infrastructure Specialist Ahold Account CICS & Capacity Technical Support P.O. Box 6462 2000 Wade Hampton Blvd. LC1-302 Greenville, South Carolina, 29606 Cell: 864 569--5338 Tel: 864 987-1417 Fax: 864 987-4500 E-mail: otto.schumac...@hp.com
-----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 12:43 PM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands Sir, ROFL !! ... oh good ... it's just your big toes ... I'm going to patent all my toes and even my fingers (in case I get slapped on the wrist) .... :-) Kind Regards Jim Thomas 617-233-4130 (mobile) 636-294-1014 (res) j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:19 AM To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL with Unix like commands I'm going to patent the big toe. Everybody who walks must pay me a royality. UPTSO is full of fools and failed engineers. 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HealthMarkets(r) is the brand name for products underwritten and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets, Inc. -The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company(r), Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA Life and Health Insurance Company.SM > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of Jim Thomas > Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2011 11:12 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL > with Unix like commands > > Ummm say doc (switching to Bugs Bunny accent) ... would that be > why Microsoft got a patent for PDSs ?? .. a concept that's been > around even before Microsoft. > > From the 'Summary Of The Invention' for U.S. patent no. > 6,594,674, 'System > and > method for creating multiple files from a single source > file', which was > issued > today to Microsoft: > > Kind Regards > > Jim Thomas > 617-233-4130 (mobile) > 636-294-1014 (res) > j...@thethomasresidence.us (Email) > > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf > Of John McKown > Sent: Monday, July 18, 2011 9:10 PM > To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu > Subject: Re: Making Z/OS easier - Effectively replacing JCL > with Unix like > commands > > On Mon, 2011-07-18 at 14:45 -0700, Sam Siegel wrote: > > On Mon, Jul 18, 2011 at 2:10 PM, Wayne Driscoll <wdri...@us.ibm.com> > wrote: > > > In my 20 plus year career I have seen a lot more people > with mainframe > > > backgrounds expressing a willingness to learn and > integrate usage of > > > non-mainframe technology than I have seen people from an > "open-systems" > > > background show a willingness to learn anything about the > mainframe. > > > > I completely agree with this statement. It is typically a > requirement > > of mainframe types to understand open system terminology and then > > speak of mainframe using open systems language. sysplex vs. cluster > > is a typical rough and ready analogy. > > > > I've yet to see an open system person have even a vague > understanding > > of record oriented I/O or PDS processing. > > > > The list goes on and on. > > PDS is a weird beastie. IMO, the closest analogy would be a directory > with very restricted file names. Record I/O might be possible if they > use a "looping" language like C or Perl to process each row in an SQL > result set. > > -- > John McKown > Maranatha! <>< > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > > > ----- > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1390 / Virus Database: 1516/3772 - Release > Date: 07/18/11 > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ----- No virus found in this message. 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