When you are in a position of strength, like looking for another job while you are still working, you can afford to make value judgments like that. If you in a position of weakness, like being out of work for an inordinate amount of time and are grasping at straws in trying to put food on the table, even a $20 an hour job is preferable to nothing.
Logic has nothing to do with it in the latter case. Bob -----Original Message----- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Mark Jacobs Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 9:05 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa If your goal is to win the race towards the bottom then this logic makes sense. If we (as a group) refuse to accept wages that don't value our skill set and value we bring to the organization, market forces will result in the offered wage being increased. We're acting against our own interests when we accept wages that are set at the insult level. Mark Jacobs On 09/08/11 08:55, Richards, Robert B. wrote: > Shane, > > I *did not* say I endorsed the lower rates and I agree with your comment on > the value of our skills. I was merely trying to point out that sometimes 100% > of $40K is better than 100% of $0. You focused on my rocking chair example, > fine. But reality sometimes dictates that other, less desirable choices have > to be made. > > Bob > > -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf > Of Shane > Sent: Thursday, September 08, 2011 8:32 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: z/OS Systems Programmer Jobs in Dubuque Iowa > > On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 07:47:41 -0400 "Richards, Robert B." wrote: > > >> Ladies and Gentlemen, >> >> How many of you would settle for $40,000 in this economy if you were >> already semi-retired, willing to move to a low cost of living area >> and bored to death with that semi-retirement? Or were already out of >> work and have exhausted your unemployment benefits? >> >> Granted, I will be the first to say that a $40,000/yr salary *is not* >> appropriate for a younger man or woman with kids still in the nest. >> But let's be real, this can be just fine for some people under >> certain circumstances. >> >> In the past, salaries this low were just another ploy to validate H1B >> visa positions. But seeing that Eric posted the requirement, I'll >> take Eric's request as bona fide. >> > Nope - all wrong, Bob, just *wrong*. > We spend a lifetime developing skills that are valuable. We (as a > community, not just individuals) need to be fairly compensated for > same. Skewing (or screwing) the market because one becomes sick of > rocking back and forth on the veranda ain't in anyones interests. > Everyone winds up losing to the rapacious bastards intent on driving > rates down. > > I know Eric is straight up and down - he was (as always) doing what > he thought was right. Everything after his initial post might have been > better not said. > > Shane ... > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, > send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO > Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html > > -- Mark Jacobs Time Customer Service Tampa, FL ---- Some people are electrifying, they light up a room when they leave. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [email protected] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
