We just licensed a new CA product, and I thought it might be a good time
to look at bringing in MSM to install it. 

I spent about half a day downloading MSM, and looking at the
installation process. Seemed like it would be a while before MSM was up
and doing productive work, and a bit overkill for out CA product set
(<10 products), so I abandoned MSM and spent less than an hour
downloading and installing the new product and current maintenance for
it.

Just how much time can it save? Not trashing the product, just looking
for real world experiences. If I can install a new product in less than
an hour, how much time can MSM save me?

Tom Chicklon

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Actually, MSM V4 is really great for downloading new Products or new
releases of Products or Maintenance for Products and then installing
them.  For me, it has really speeded things up for getting new releases
or maintenance on current releases on.

Not to mention, the ability to deploy those products to another site in
your company.

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Speaking of MSM, and having Mr, Craddock responding....

It sure would be nice if there were a happy medium between doing
nothing, and installing/using MSM.   It would be *really* nice if CA
implemented their own order server to support SMPE RECEIVE ORDER.
Jumping into MSM is not a small task, and I'm not convinced that it
isn't a net increase in labor using it vs, RYO method for maintenance
today...

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 with MSM there was a conscious decision to follow IBM support policies,
which makes sense if you think about it. I have no idea whether anyone
is running it in an unsupported config. I would point out that if a
vendor says "release X is required", it usually means just that. You can
go off and do your own thing (of course) but you should not expect too
much sympathy from the vendor if your way doesn't work.

CC

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On Oct 6, 2011, at 11:10 AM, Silvio Camplani
<sysp...@silvio.fastmail.fm> wrote:

> The release notes for MSM v4 say z/OS 1.10 is required. This seems to
be because IBM supports current-2...
>
> Is anyone running MSM v4 on a pre z/OS 1.10 lpar?

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