-----------SNIP------------------------------- HONE also started offering marketing&sales applications implemented in cms\apl. Eventually the sales&marketing use began to dominate all HONE use and the virtual guest use died off. By the mid-70s *ALL* mainframe orders had to be first processed by HONE aids&configurators ... all implemented in APL (and HONE virtual machine clones were started to sprout up all over the world).
HONE was part of the sales&marketing organization and periodically some branch manager would be promoted into executive position that included responsibility for HONE ... and they would find to the horror that the company (especially sales&marketing) ran on vm370 (not *MVS*). They would come to believe that their career in the corporation would be made if they could convert HONE to MVS. A huge amount of resources would go into a MVS migration attempt and eventually fail ... then there would eventually be executive shuffle and the whole thing forgotten until the next new executive. ----------SNIP------------ Anne: My memory sort of agrees with the above and I will accept your memory. We used to have a full time SE from sometime in 196x's to the mid-late 1970's. My recollection from talking with him was that HONE was used for all configuration(s). Was that not the case? I still remember (albeit vaguely ) looking at some output (paper) from a hone session and being asked about memory and the like. Ed ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to lists...@bama.ua.edu with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html