W dniu 2012-02-23 18:02, Francis van Zutphen pisze:
Hello ICSF

We have a particular mainframe environment which is a contained Data Server 
(only DB2 databases and CICS).
We do not have any ATM or PIN applications; we do have websphere; we do not 
have direct customer/user access on this machine.
The non-mainframe platforms communicate with this mainframe via services like 
MQ and TIBCO.

We have been using TKE to securely load the Master keys only, and not 
operational keys.
Over the years the new applications that use crypto have been installed on the 
other platforms.
We now have a situation where we only have ONE legacy application key defined 
and in use in the CKDS, that is why we are now considering dismantling the 
optional TKE.

We realise that going back to TSO panels for Master Key Administration is less 
secure than TKE, but find can no longer justify using TKE as the remaining 
application does not have a high enough CIA rating.

I have two questions:

1). Are there any other customers out there that do not use TKE?
2). What is the justification for not using TKE?


Well,
You wrote that TSO panels are less secure. I would say this method MAY be less secure and IS "less certified".
Imagine special procedure for key entry:
- "fresh PC" - just installed from scratch,
- connected directly to the host, even without the switch
- using SSL/TLS
- erased just after one use.

The key consist of three parts. Every part can be entered by another person.

Question: what *technical* reason causes the above method less secure than TKE?

Back to the question: Who don't use TKE? I bet (and I'm pretty sure of that) all the shops in Poland do not use TKE.
Justification: MONEY. No real need to use TKE.

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Radoslaw Skorupka
Lodz, Poland


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