UNICODE does, but not necessarily subsets of the full UNICODE.  UTF-8 is a 
subset and UTF-16 is a subset.  I am not sure about UTF-32.

So It does not surprise me that UTF-8 does not have the Hebrew alphabet.  I 
believe (without checking the actual UNICODE description) that UTF-8 is 
primarily the Latin character and its derivatives (i.e. the umlaut characters 
and the accent characters).  I think that you have to go to UTF-16 to get the 
Hebrew, Cyrillic and Arabic characters.  I think that UTF-16 also includes most 
of the common Chinese and Japanese characters, but to get the full set you need 
UTF-32.

Lloyd



----- Original Message ----
From: Steve Comstock <st...@trainersfriend.com>
To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
Sent: Mon, March 26, 2012 9:18:17 AM
Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode

On 3/26/2012 7:12 AM, McKown, John wrote:
> I don't know if this will help, but I did the following (but I don't have 
>anything actually in IBM-424)
>
> Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
> (C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
>
>> ftp lih1
> Connected to lih1.uicnrh.dom.
> 220-FTP 08:07:14 on 2012-03-26.
> 220-This is HealthMarkets.
> 220-Unauthorized access is strictly prohibited.
> 220 Connection will close if idle for more than 50 minutes.
> User (lih1.uicnrh.dom:(none)): tsh009
> 331 Send password please.
> Password:
> 230-You have successfully logged on to the LIH1 ftp server.
> 230 TSH009 is logged on.  Working directory is "TSH009.".
> ftp>  quote site sbdataconn=(IBM-424,UTF-8)
> 200-Some characters cannot be translated between UTF-8 and IBM-424

Whoa! That's startling. I thought Unicode encompassed all the
world's character sets; how can a character not translate?


> 200 SITE command was accepted
> ftp>  cd /home/tsh009
> 250 HFS directory /home/tsh009 is the current working directory
> ftp>  get crontab.txt
> 200 Port request OK.
> 125-Tagged EBCDIC file translated with table built using file system 
>cp=IBM-1047
> , network transfer cp=UTF-8
> 125 Sending data set /home/tsh009/crontab.txt
> 250 Transfer completed successfully.
> ftp: 40 bytes received in 0.00Seconds 40000.00Kbytes/sec.
> ftp>
>
> --
> John McKown
> Systems Engineer IV
> IT
>
> Administrative Services Group
>
> HealthMarkets®
>
> 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010
> (817) 255-3225 phone •
> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com
>
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>Company®, Mid-West National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA 
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>
>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 7:23 AM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode
>>
>> I'm not sure what you mean buy CCSID, but the data is encoded
>> in IBM-424 EBCDIC - Hebrew New Code.
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of McKown, John
>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 2:20 PM
>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>> Subject: Re: z/OS ftp and Unicode
>>
>> What is CCSID of the data on z/OS? By Unicode, do you mean
>> UTF-8, UTF-16, or UTF-32 on Windows? The basic command is the
>> SBDATACONN
>>
>> http://publibz.boulder.ibm.com/cgi-bin/bookmgr_OS390/BOOKS/f1a
>> 1b4b0/18.109
>>
>> --
>> John McKown
>> Systems Engineer IV
>> IT
>>
>> Administrative Services Group
>>
>> HealthMarkets®
>>
>> 9151 Boulevard 26 • N. Richland Hills • TX 76010
>> (817) 255-3225 phone •
>> john.mck...@healthmarkets.com • www.HealthMarkets.com
>>
>>
>> Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail message may contain
>> confidential or proprietary information. If you are not the
>> intended recipient, please contact the sender by reply e-mail
>> and destroy all copies of the original message.
>> HealthMarkets® is the brand name for products underwritten
>> and issued by the insurance subsidiaries of HealthMarkets,
>> Inc. –The Chesapeake Life Insurance Company®, Mid-West
>> National Life Insurance Company of TennesseeSM and The MEGA
>> Life and Health Insurance Company.SM
>>
>>
>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List
>>> [mailto:IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu] On Behalf Of ??? ?? ???
>>> Sent: Monday, March 26, 2012 3:49 AM
>>> To: IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu
>>> Subject: z/OS ftp and Unicode
>>>
>>> Can anyone show me how to transfer a file from z/OS to
>>> windows using the windows ftp client so that the resulting
>>> file on windows is Unicode.
>>>
>>> The source file on z/OS will be EBCDIC.
>>>
>>> We are using z/OS v1.11.
>>>
>>> Unicode services are enabled on z/OS.
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> Gadi
>>>




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