> -----Original Message----- > From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark > Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:58 AM > To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU > Subject: Re: What part of z/OS is the OS? > >
<snip> > > > > Can you use z/OS without TSO? > > Why, sure! E.g. my Linux guests can still reach over to DB2 > on z/OS if > you take down TSO. I don't think that makes the OS useless. > I can access > my files with NFS. > > It's true, I wouldn't want to configure a z/OS system without > TSO, but > it's just one of the interfaces. I have slowly fading > nightmares of CARDS > and KEY PUNCHES before I was ever introduced to a 3270 and > TSO.... :-) > > Alan Altmark And even though it is "perverse", I'm trying to see how much I can get done from a UNIX shell in z/OS without using TSO at all. OK, not too much right now. I'm too stuck on things like SDSF. And the vi editor which comes with z/OS is not very good, compared to the vim that I'm used to on Linux/Intel. I've really made myself a PAIN over on MVS-OE wanting things in z/OS UNIX simply to make like easier in a "UNIX shell" environment. -- John McKown Senior Systems Programmer HealthMarkets Keeping the Promise of Affordable Coverage Administrative Services Group Information Technology This message (including any attachments) contains confidential information intended for a specific individual and purpose, and its content is protected by law. If you are not the intended recipient, you should delete this message and are hereby notified that any disclosure, copying, or distribution of this transmission, or taking any action based on it, is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html