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> [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alan Altmark
> Sent: Tuesday, August 29, 2006 7:58 AM
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> Subject: Re: What part of z/OS is the OS?
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> > 
> > Can you use z/OS without TSO?
> 
> Why, sure!  E.g. my Linux guests can still reach over to DB2 
> on z/OS if 
> you take down TSO.  I don't think that makes the OS useless.  
> I can access 
> my files with NFS.
> 
> It's true, I wouldn't want to configure a z/OS system without 
> TSO, but 
> it's just one of the interfaces.  I have slowly fading 
> nightmares of CARDS 
> and KEY PUNCHES before I was ever introduced to a 3270 and 
> TSO....  :-)
> 
> Alan Altmark

And even though it is "perverse", I'm trying to see how much I can get
done from a UNIX shell in z/OS without using TSO at all. OK, not too
much right now. I'm too stuck on things like SDSF. And the vi editor
which comes with z/OS is not very good, compared to the vim that I'm
used to on Linux/Intel. I've really made myself a PAIN over on MVS-OE
wanting things in z/OS UNIX simply to make like easier in a "UNIX shell"
environment.

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