On Wednesday, 09/06/2006 at 01:22 CST, Paul Gilmartin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > essentially a full-screen app. But if you press <enter> and go back into > > line mode, then the default VM line editing characters (those specified or > > defaulted in SYSTEM CONFIG) are in effect, even before you log on. > > > > But then you had to spoil it.
:-) You can't please everyone. Today is not your day. Tomorrow is not looking good, either! > > > > > The feature is useful only on keyboard-printer terminals. > > > > > > The feature is useful for line-mode input on a 3270. BTDTGTS. > > > Why? How? > > > VM allows the sysprog to set the line editing defaults. The most > > reasonable are: CHARDEL OFF LINEND # ESCAPE " LINEDEL OFF. Character and > > > '#' is not reasonable because it is a "national" character valid in > filenames in both VM and MVS. It took an APAR against XEDIT to > get "LOAD FOO#BAR ft fm" to work because there's no way to > disable LINEND before doing a LOAD. IIRC, the APAR caused XEDIT > on entry to use the setting of CP LINEND. My definition of "reasonable" obviously differs from yours. :-) My view is from the compatibility perspective. It is ALSO reasonable, as you note later, to turn LINEND OFF and ESCAPE OFF if you do not have a user population that would be upset to find a change in behavior. For new VM installations, OFF is fine. For me, I have to have LINEND turned on. "XAUTOLOG user SYNCH#SET SECUSER user *" is just too valuable to me, and my exec to handle it for me isn't on every system I use. (sigh) > > line delete aren't necessary any more and the default of CHARDEL @ just > > > They were never necessary; they're no longer even useful. Eh? They were useful in the days of typewriter terminals and teletypes, when a physical backspace would have just obscured whatever you subsequently typed. There was no "white-out" on a 3215! But I agree that once the CRT came into being and we all learned to use it, CHARDEL and LINEDEL went the way of the dodo.... Maybe the next time we think about re-versioning z/VM we'll consider changing those two to OFF. But I think LINEND OFF and ESCAPE OFF would cause a riot. If you can convince the folks on the IBMVM mailing list.... ;-) Alan Altmark z/VM Development IBM Endicott ---------------------------------------------------------------------- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at http://bama.ua.edu/archives/ibm-main.html
