Hi Tom,

Yes it is possible to use Flashcopy to establish Flashcopy pairs for a
large number of volumes at approximately the same time.  We do this in
conjunction with a daily syncpoint where activity is suspended in DB2 to
support DRP.  

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To minimize the time you can use multiple jobs, multiple steps in each
job (we do 20 volumes in each step), and use the PARALLEL option in
DFDSS.  
You can Flashcopy hundreds or thousands of volumes quickly.  A typical
Flashcopy job here does 100 volumes in 5 steps in 30 to 50 seconds
total.

        Best Regards, 

                Sam Knutson, GEICO 
                Performance and Availability Management 
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-----Original Message-----
>
> What you describe is exactly what I did for a client in Columbus OH.
> They had a Shark for their mainframe. We flashed as soon as the batch
> cycle ended and then did the full volume copies to tape (2 copies)
(one
> for on site and one for offsite). As I recall, Backups of the flash
> copies started between 5a-6a and finished by 9AM.  3390-3s and 3490
with
> "oreos". I've forgotten how many 3490 units and how many DASD units.
>
> Oh yeah, and D/R tests worked the first time, every time.
>

Steve,

Over what period of time were the volumes FlashCopy'd?  My understanding
is 
that DFDSS front-ends the FlashCopy function, so you only get the
FlashCopy 
just before DFDSS can do the physical backup to tape.  Can you batch all
the 
FlashCopy's, then copy them to tape later?  It's very important to keep
the 
time window when the volumes are actually copied as small as possible.

Regards,
Tom Conley 
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