While on the subject of editors, i am new to z/os Linux and would like
to find an editor other than the hideous thing call 'vim'.
I have WINSCP376 but I do not trust that too much and would like an
editor such as ISPF for zLinux.
 Is there such a thing?

As for NetBeans, the only good thing about it is that it gives the line
numbers. I liked the old v3 version where you can just edit a program
that is not part of a project. They did away with that in v4 and i have
not tried v5. although sometimes Netbeans is helpful for flagging
errors, and other times not.

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From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Craddock, Chris
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 9:29 AM
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Subject: Re: Need for small machines was Re: Macro List/Execute Forms
(Was: Need help with Assembler ...)

 John McKown is on the money (as usual) when he says;
> Agreed, in general. That's likely the difference between a "text
editor
> with enhancements" such as ISPF edit, versus an IDE for a specific
> language. I would never use ISPF to create a Java program. I use
> Netbeans. I'm easily 5x as productive using Netbeans as ISPF. But I
> wouldn't use Netbeans to edit a text file.

ISPF is an absolutely wonderful editor for dealing with line oriented
structured text that is no longer than the width of the viewing window.
I strongly prefer an ISPF-like editor (in my case SPF/SE on windows) for
editing assembler (or Rexx or clist) source code, jcl, parmlib members
and pretty much anything I touch that naturally lives inside an 80 byte
line. It's great for that kind of thing and if those things are what you
deal with all day, then why change? 

But... while you can scroll left and right and play games with inserts
and shifts and nulls and so forth, only a masochist would claim it works
well for unstructured data and long lines. There are far better tools
for editing plain old text and for languages like C/C++, Java etc. The
SDK's for those, particularly things like Eclipse, would make an old
assembler coder weep.

CC

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