>Bruce McKnight wrote:
>> Greetings all,
>>
>> What is the difference between a systems engineer and a systems
>> programmer? I'm referring to the tradtional tech support staff members
>> in a regular company using mainframes for business purposes, not ISV
>> software houses or the like. It seems from the job postings I've seen,
>> there is no real consensus on the job title for our role.
>>
>> I've seen a lot of job postings that don't align with what we do as
>> well. One job posting said "MVS Systems Programmer" but it was clearly
>> for an applications development role. "MVS Systems Administrator" has
>> shown up a few times with a role definition that was nearly a 100%
>> match.
 
 
In some states the abuse of the term 'engineer' in a job title was met with the 
legislated requirement that said person indeed be a licensed engineer.  Either 
you had demonstrated engineering training & skills or you knew how to drive 
the trains.  Nothing else was tolerated.  
 
For the past 15 years or so, some HR/ER agencies like to create positions 
with 'Administrator' in the title, being the trendy folks that HR/ER groups 
like to 
think they are.  
 
The best title I have held to date (besides 'Co-Owner') was 'IBM Technical 
Expert'.  (Well, I'm kind of fond of the title 'Dad', too.)  
 
-- 
Tom Schmidt 
Madison, WI 
 
 

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